Rumor has it that Eddie Haskell personally assured the Town Council that the revaluation was perfect ...

and the Tax Assessor deserves a raise and also a longevity bonus.

However, Eddie was so nervous that he forgot to shave that day and, for some reason, he was unable to stand up straight.

But when a guy is wringing his own hands while he speaks well…

it must be the truth, right?

June goofed again….

another Open Meetings violation.

There was insufficient public notice for the TC discussion of an “investigation” during their July meeting.

The Open Meeting Laws require “sufficient specificity to apprise the public of the subject matter to be discussed”.

There was no agenda item indicating that the TC would discuss a request to investigate the Town Manager, related to Pat’s firing.

Therefore, there is an Open Meetings law violation, and the actions taken (vote not to conduct an investigation) are null and void.

And June teaches Political Science at RWU?

What can June possibly be teaching anybody?

Round and round it goes...

Mr Ursillo “I have never seen this used for a labor dispute,” he said.

Let me see if I have this right because you have never seen something it cannot be used. Obviously not an inventor, not a frien to Ben Franklin or any of the Founding Fathers. Guess he didn't know when they spent 4 months locked up writing the Constitution they had never seen anything like that either, but hey they did it anyway and I guess it worked huh.

Hmm is it interference to come to the aid of a private citizen who happens to be an employee of the town and by all appearances has been wrongfully terminated in the name of the Town. Does the charter only protect those elected and hired to run the town or does it protect every citizen in the town including its staff employees.

I could be wrong but is “non-interference “to mean the day to day operations of the town manager in the duties of the town. Can this town manager say over spend on anything he wants. Can he hire strippers to dance in his office well he works? Can he have a water slide installed in the back of the town hall for employee stress relief? Can he have Lunch catered from the capital grill to only those office staff he demands they wear Pink Star Wars Princess Leia outfits and listen to Black Sabbath greatest hits all day? No he can’t do that because he would be called before the council for the abuse of the taxpayer’s funds, abuse of the public trust, and a ton of other charges. Of course the charter allows them to investigate this or it would not be worth the paper it is printed on.

The reason for a charter is very simple

Main Entry: 1char•ter

Pronunciation: \?chär-t?r\

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English chartre, from Anglo-French, from Medieval Latin chartula, from Latin, diminutive of charta

Date: 13th century

1 : a written instrument or contract (as a deed) executed in due form

2 a : a grant or guarantee of rights, franchises, or privileges from the sovereign power of a state or country b : a written instrument that creates and defines the franchises of a city, educational institution, or corporation c : CONSTITUTION

Notice the guarantee of rights, That would include the rights of anyone in town including their employees, let us not forget, The U.S. Constitution the Guarantee’s the right of redress for all citizen against the government. I believe the Council is part of the government or has Barrington ceded to Cuba, because I don’t remember reading that and have not been asked for a passport to enter or leave at the bridges.

Well I do a little (tongue in cheek) on this the sad thing is by this story he could do all this in his day to day and Mr. Ursillo says the Council can’t do anything about it.

Jack

Oh and not all of those silly things he could do are criminal which was my point. But you cant determine that with out a hearing, surprise before the council to explain his actions. Strange huh.

Jack

Very good points raised here by Jackkb ... a follower of this town solicitor's logic would allow our town council to relieve itself from oversight responsibility ... on a selective basis ... for questionable activities of this town manager ... and ... of course ... this is exactly what has happened here ...

It's a game that is played often at the Barrington town hall ... this "false cover" is irresponsibly passed around in a circle from the town solicitor ... to the town council ... to the town manager ... each hiding behind the other's flawed opinion ... while also granting false praise or a flawed opinion to another in the process ...

It's our own local version of checks and balances.

The action has once again come full circle and it is now clear for all of us to see ... this selective abdication of responsibilities by the town council with the assistance of a flawed opinion of the town solicitor ... based on his pre-consultation with the town manager ... to the detriment of the innocent employee ... or the puzzled public document seeker ... or the offended appraisal recipient ...

So ... there you have it ... your Barrington government at work ... not for you ... but rather ... for the longevity (and the longevity bonus) of our town manager ... the healthy litigation billings of our town solicitor ... and the egos of our town councilors ...

The sad part is ... it seems like they are doing their best.

Thanks to all of you for your continued campaign and collaboration for self-preservation ... as you provide us with a fine case study of a local government service disaster ... we'll all laugh about this some day ... after we secure some adult supervision for the Town of Barrington.

2-1-5 states that the Council has the authority to investigate any

officer, and so on. It does not say it has to be a criminal investigation.

The taxpayers of Barrington are paying for a Solicitor who either does not know what he is doing, or is trying to protect the Town Manager and not an innocent employee whose life has been devastated.

How much money is being spent on legal council on a yearly basis

by Barrington Taxpayers?

What's to investigate? It doesn't take CSI to figure out that he fired somebody that was on sick leave. Now they're going to waste tax payer money cleaning up this mess! He completely mishandled this. What else has he mishandled? This sucks!

From a lot of the comments on here over the past year or so and in the paper he seems to have handled many many things with a lot of misses.

Jack

Obama apologized to Shirley Sherrod for the wrongful firing...

and Shirley's been asked to go back to work for our government...

becuase Shirley didn't do anything wrong.

Peter DeAngelis should apologize to Pat McGee for the wrongful firing...

and offer her her job back...

because Pat didn't do anything wrong.

See....

it can be done.

It's not too late.

jmo84ri ... good point about the firing of Pat McGee while she was out ... I believe that Pat informed the town manager during the interrogation that she did not send an e-mail ... and that fact alone should have ended the discussion ... what was so bad about the e-mail anyway? .... and why is the town manager so sensitive to this that he feels compelled to scream at the nicest lady in the office?

It would be bad enough if the only issue was the intimidation of an employee (the hostile working environment factor) ... or the firing of a nine-year employee while she was on sick leave (the disrespect factor) ... or the public statements insinuating that she did something wrong but not stating exactly what she did sort (the defamation of character factor) ...

... but he held her pay ... and then fired her ... and took her longevity bonus (that he invented) ... for what ?

So what exactly did Pat McGee do? ... to deserve this attack from the town manager?

Did her spouse commit some kind of high crime of treason against the town?

... and what about this interrogation and intimidation in the closed office with no release? ... Is this the local version of waterboarding?

Only a coward would fire someone by courier and holding a last paycheck is against Federal and State law.

The ultimate turn about is fair play here is when she wins her wrongful termination suit she can barter with the town to get rid of their little Napoleon as part of the settlement. This will be during her 99 week period of unemployment benefits also. As I said before Napoleon won't are show his face at a unemployment appeals hearing although IF he does though she should ask to record the hearing as what ever he says can be used against little Napoleon later.

Did someone ask about legal expenses?

Oh, Barrington spends way too much. And when they’ve spent the legal budget for the year, they sometimes use money from an account called “Miscellaneous”.

And Mr. Ursillo's firm does this funny thing where they charge this amazingly low (relatively speaking) hourly rate. Hey, maybe, they more than make up for it in HOURS billed to the town....

Anyway, here's just a few actual items from Mr. Ursillo’s firm’s bills to the Town of Barrington:

“Prepare for and attend Tax Board of Review Hearing”… "$510.00".

“Attend Planning Board Meeting”…."$769.50".

“Attend Town Council meeting”…"$600.00".

Barrington taxpayers could do a lot better when it comes to a Town

Manager, Town Council, and Solicitor. They are taking care of themselves at other peoples expense, and believe that they are

untouchable.

Add onto the list the tax assessor. Seems like one hand washes the other hand washes the other hand washes the other hand and on and on.

First the townspeople were preyed upon with the Vision appraisal, and then town employees like Ms McGee and the unlucky DPW men. Maybe next they will turn on each other? I can dream, can't I?

The town solicitor never had it so good till this year, did he?

So, upon Mr. Ursillo’s recommendation, the Town Council voted “NO” to an investigation into what Mr. Ursillo termed a "labor matter between the Town Manager and an employee" ....

we call it "Peter's wrongful termination of Pat".

Mr. Ursillo said that it was a "labor matter" between Peter and Pat and that the Town Council can’t get involved those issues.

But Mr. Ursillo neglected to point out that the Town Council can investigate Peter and his conduct in relation to his discharge of his duties.

The town council has a duty to investigate this matter.

Mr. Ursillo added that he has never seen the Town Council investigatory powers used for something like this and that it would be used for investigations into criminal conduct or “something that’s going on in the town that is just not right”.

Something IS going on in the town that’s just not right...

and maybe it is also criminal. And the town council can investigate matters that are not criminal matters. They just don't want to investigate this. (Assuming that we believe that they haven't already involved themselves.)

Anyway, in Peter’s termination letter to Pat, Peter states that he had lost confidence in Pat because “a person” (not Pat) had “tipped… off” a reporter to Peter’s “sensitive” and “strictly confidential” intentions to not appoint a Deputy Town Clerk. Peter stated that this information had been imparted to the department as a group (this shows Peter’s insensitive and utter lack of concern for Pat’s feelings, by the way) and that the reason that Peter was upset? He had not yet had a chance to inform the TOWN COUNCIL.

(Keep in mind that this is the very same town council that, per Mr. Ursillo, does not get involved in these matters. Uh, can’t have it both ways. So, which is it, gang?)

For good measure, in his termination letter to Pat, Peter also threw in that he “continue(s) to reflect on” Pat’s “performance in general, this week while you have been out”. Uh… say what? The woman was out sick and had provided a note from a doctor.

And, of course Kate threw in a little “slap” letter to Pat wherein Kate takes “umbrage” with Pat. (“Umbrage” is one of Kate’s favorite words. Kate “takes umbrage” so often she may want to consider a start-up company along the lines of an umbrage taxi service so Kate can continue to “take umbrage” everywhere she goes.)

Kate wrongly and quite meanly tells Pat that Pat’s firing is Pat’s “own doing”. Kate loves to orally/verbally “slap” people. Kate is really quite small and “slapping” people makes her feel big.

The Tax Assessor meets Peter’s “High Standards”….

The Tax Assessor negligently botched the reval, and withheld public records and lied about it.

Oh, but the Tax Assessor is really good at meeting Peter’s “High Standard #1”…

1. Secrecy at the Town Hall.

And if 70% of the taxpayers voted for her as she once so famously stated, then 70% of the taxpayers must agree this person who would attack an innocent with her little unasked for umbraged comment.

This is what 70% of Barrington voters asked for, boys and girls!

I just can’t fathom why the town council in its infinite wisdom is depending upon legal advice to look into an employee that works for the council I.E. Pat. All employees answer to the taxpayer and the council is the duly elected representative of the taxpayers to over see all matters (that’s all matters) concerning the town.

The Council is charged with not only over seeing all employees but upholding the image and reputation of the town. They are required by law to oversee, which means look into, which means investigate anything they want.

Sorry Mr. Ursillo but you can’t tell if something is criminal, administrative wrong doing, discrimatory, or anything else unless you look at it. I am not a lawyer but I did watch Caveman Lawyer on Saturday night live and that was the simple logic he used.

If there is a sudden loss of money in the coffers do you have to wait until they are empty and someone suddenly leaves to Aruba before the council can look at it? I really want to know that one geeze. This is so foolish on this council’s part. If the manager of a bagel store saw someone steal a bagel and then smacked them and took the bagel back, who do you think is responsible in this day and age? The owner of the store, and the manager. If a bartender serves someone underage who pays the fine, the owner, again the owners are the taxpayer and the council is required to investigate everything that exposes the taxpayers to anything, yes even an embarrassing apology.

Jack

Ursillo sure gives some bad advice to the town knowing he'll get a big paycheck defending the town.

If they go to court with this certainly the town will be named in the suit so quite obviously its in the best interest of Barrington that this be settled out of court.

The town council must be stuck on stupid to miss the conflict of interest inherent in that advice.

Yea hard to believe they do not see the simple logic of their job. This is typical when you are so dependent on a lawyer that you no longer think for yourself. Lawyers are just as likey to get it wrong as anyone else. No-one can confuse an issue at times more than a lawyer, when the simple answer is right in front of you.

I don't understand the Council having to have a lawyer that works for the town answer questions asked of the town manager. Smacks of being inappropriate and of impropriety to me. If something looks wrong feels wrong it usually is wrong. Course I could be wrong ;-}

Jack

It makes perfect sense for the town council to rely on their hired counsel as part of their decision-making process. This is good policy ... It is how smart town councilors make smart decisions ... and stay out of legal trouble.

But ...... something is definately wrong with this picture.

The proof is in the pudding ... what smart decisions have been made by this town council in the past 18 months? ... supporting the fouling of the town's tax base? ... supporting the hiding of public information after being warned by the AG? ... Giving the town manager a double-digit salary increase and pension bonus? ... yep ... this is a mighty smart group allright ... and I believe all of these were unianimous decisions ... 5-zip in favor of the disaster ...

and how about legal trouble? ... Legal Trouble is the middle name of this town council (Town "Legal Trouble" Council) ... there's a legal fiasco every 15 minutes in this town ... what is up with that? ... It's like they're ... trying ... to maximize the litigation!

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, ... DUMB!

Dumb town manager ... supervised by dumb councilors ... advised by dumb solicitor ...

Come on ... really ... can they get any dumber? ...

Follow the money.

Is there a yellow brick road there in Barrington.

Jack

The bottom line is that this firing has many unusual and troubling circumstances from a textbook personnel management perspective ...

first ... you have what appears to be favoritism in the town's promotion procedures ... this is what seems to have triggered this questioning e-mail in the first place ... hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

second ... you have this employee interrogation and a report of employee intimidation with no denial of this yelling session and lock-down ... and it's backed up by a work absence and a doctor's note ... this is likely a hostile working environment by almost any measure ...

hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

third ... you have this dismissl of a long-time employee during the absence period covered by the doctor's note ... hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

fourth ... you have this long-term positive record of this stellar employee ... coming to such an abrupt and unusual halt ... hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

fifth ...you have this unusual taking of an employee's salary ... backed up by a lawyer's letter to the town ... hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

sixth ... you have this basic fact that the employee and the town manager both agree that the employee didn't do what the town manager accused her of doing ... hmm ... worth investigating/ ... yes

seventh ... you have this ambiguity regarding the reasoning for the firing of a long-term employee ... that the town council wasn't yet informed of the information contained in the e-mail ... then why not simply inform the town council first Mr. smarty? ... If the management decision has already been made ... then what is the point in "leaking" this information to the employees first? ... what do employees do when you inform them of your personnel decisions? ... they TALK ABOUT IT ... and why is this decision so confidential in the first place? ... doesn't the whole town (and many other towns) now know about all the details associated with the town manager's "big decision" about how to shuffle the clerk responsibilties? ... and doesn't Pat McGee's spouse now have the right to publicly question this shuffling decision? and don't the employees also have this right to express their opinion about this decision? ... so ... what is the town manager's sensitivity? exactly ... hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

eighth ... you have this unusual situation of the firing of a long-term employee ... at the point where she is 99% of the way to completing service that would entitle her to "deferred compensation" for service provided during this 99% period .. that one just smells really bad ... hmm ... worth investigating? ... yes

There's probably a few more too ... but there is certainly enough here to warrant the town council looking into the matter ... but this involves the town council managing our town manager ... and there is risk that what they uncover will not be very pleasant for him ... or for them ... and the town council has no interest in taking this type of step ... whether warrnted or not ... and so the ring of distortion is fired up ... among council ... manager ... solicitor ... in order to protect the guilty ... and attack the victim ... 2-1-5 is reserved for extortion? ... really? ... well there's a stretch ... Pat's firing was ... HER OWN DOING? ... really? ... now it really takes some nerve to float that one !

I think we're all starting to get the picture here.

Well hopefully Lynch since he is dropping out of the gov. race can an will look into this. Far as I know she has rights.

Jack

I promised myself that I would never write on these blogs but this insanity has gone too far. I only know what I read in the paper and my own experiences because no one at town hall will discuss it and they shouldn't. It has no business being in the paper. but the blogs are so wrong and one sided I have to comment,

When I first read the article I felt that it did not ring true.

2 years ago over a conflict with a parent because their child did not get a lead in the musical, that parent tried to get me fired. John Taylor who was new in the job and was my supervisor wanted to call me in to back the the parent. I was upset because I had been working for a month without a contract.

The parents arranged a public meeting to discuss replacing me. and I brought the wrath of HELL on Peter DeAngelis. No one can get together an angry room like Joel Hellmann. An auditorium of angry people adressed Peter. My staff and students were all but calling for his crucifixion.

When he called me into his office and closed the door he was none too pleased. But he never yelled. He never raised his voice. and if anyone had the right to yell was Peter DeAngelis on that day at me.

Am I to believe that he "screamed" at Pat in front ofwitnesses? I am sure there was a conversation that she didn't like but you cannot convince me he screamed!

Now even if it was a very unpleasant conversation and it might have been, what conversation is so unpleasant that requires an employee to miss a week of work? sick leave costs money also! A week of work from one conversation from Peter? That is not what sick leave is for. All over the fact that Peter is trying to save money by not keeping the deputy position!

A lot of hay has been mad about witholding pay. and how it is a crime. It is a crime and there are specific fines that accompany the withholding of pay.

I have run the town theatre program for 9 years and there have been +/- 100 employees working for the program and all of them know there are three ways to get paid. Yopu can: Get direct deposit on FRIDAY or you can pick up your check on FRIDAY, or you can have you check mailed on FRIDAY. Those are the 3 choices. I will admit that I have been in the office on the occasional late Thursday afternoon and I have been offered my check with the caveat that I wait until FRIDAY to cash it.

The article states that Pat expected to have RECEIVED her check on THURSDAY! That she needed it to pay her bills. Why in Gods name would she expect it Thursday? Has she been cashing her checks early? Was she demanding her pay early because of the problem?

I have had many businesses and if I had an employee out on a questionable sick leave demanding a promotion and was demanding her paycheck early I would fire her in a New York Minute. To not do so would destroy dicipline and moral in the office.

According to the article Peter sent the check by courior on Friday. There goes those 100 or so claimes of a law suit for late paymet of wages. Pay on payday is not late.

As to the people who are trying to be funny with the diologue. I directed over 500 plays and I worked standup at the Comedy Store and the Improvisation clubs in LA. In my expert opinion you are not funny. Not even close. In LA I would tell you to keep your day job. You are just low, petty and mean. you are an embarressment to the town and yourselves. If you truly believe things are so wrong and need to be better, then lets see your name on a ballot! if the Town councilors and the Town manager need to be replaced run for office. Stand up and be counted.

There are real issues to be debated. The Beach house. The budget. The Union pensions. Our State aid to education. Civil rights. Don't waste words just being angry. Be angry and have a point be sure of your facts. for the stupidity on these blogs make it hard for those of us who want positive change to achieve it.

And lastly If you are going to be rude and say something people don't want to hear, Be an honorable person. Be a stand up guy. Have the courage to write a letter to the paper. Josh would love to print it and more people would read it. Of course you would have to sign your name and people would know who you are.

In fact you should all sign your names for if you did I expect that many of these blogs would be from the same couple of people using different names. So sign your names. If you don't you are just CRAVEN COWARDS and I have no use for you and you should be ashamed.

Joel Hellmann

That's just the point, Jackkb ...

really little things .... turn into really huge messes around here ... really quickly ... and it requires the guy running for governor to get involved ... in order to bring some sanity to the situation and "solve" all of these "really big messes" ... I'm sure that the AG staff is just rolling their eyes every time they hear the word "Barrington" ...

These self-inflicted PR crises ... left and right ... what's up with that? Why is the AG so involved with Barrington?

Are we supposed to accept these explanations from the town manager and the town council? Are we supposed to blame these messes on the citizens who ask to see the documents? or the citizens who ask questions? or the citizens who pay the cockeyed tax assessments? or the employees who get wrongly fired?

I believe that these are the kinds of explanations that we are getting from our town leadership ... "Pat McGee's firing is her own doing ..." ? Are you kidding me?

Can hardley wait for the next PR crisis and explanation ... due in about 15 minutes.

Barrington Town Hall is desperately seeking adult supervision.

Mr. Hellmann….

1. talks about himself in the third person like “Jimmy” (Seinfeld),

2. works for and supports the Barrington town government,

3. is running for office and wants your votes (hey, you decide – is this guy an improvement?),

4. admits that he does not have the facts about Pat’s firing but wants to slap those who do have the facts,

5. sounds really, really, angry…even angrier that the people he’s accusing of being angry,

6. declares himself to be the expert-final-word on what’s funny and what isn’t funny (oh, yeah, he’s obviously a rollicking good time), and

7. probably would have been better off remaining anonymous.

Yours truly,

Craven Coward

(who is afraid of being punished by the Barrington Government and who probably will not be voting for Mr. Hellmann after all).

p.s. Mr. Hellmann, I apologize for not being of any “use” to you. Gee, I

am really, really sorry and ashmed about that because, well, shucks,

when I wake up every day the first words on my lips are, “Let’s see,

how can I be of the best ‘use’ to Mr. Hellmann today….”

I think the only funny one writing on here and the only informed one is the great Jackkb himself. I don't even know why the rest of us bother to have opinion when we can just ask the wise old sage how we should feel. One thing is for sure Cowboy Up is not funny, not even in the slightest way.

I'm devastated.

You thought I was trying to be funny?

I apologize to all of those who were forced to read and misunderstand my words.

I will stop now.

This is it...

This is "Goodbye"....

forever...

or until I feel like posting again...

whichever comes first.

Since DeAngelis fired her HE was responsible to pay her ALL pay coming to her within twenty four hours so the cowardly courier user should have included the last weeks pay that she was out sick for plus any vacation or sick days she had coming.

Thats the law like it or not and guess what it even applies to Barrington.

I can't wait to read about the wrongful termination suit when Barringtons paid by the hour legal beagle charges a fortune to defend the town who will be a principle in the suit.

It probably won't look that bad till that terrible words "punitive damages" is uttered. Maybe they should hold off on the beach cabana till this is settled.

Well, if this guy Hellman is running for office then we should be expecting a new round of entertainment by the self proclaimed "King of comedy", should he actually get elected that is.

He's a guy right? That was rhetorical by the way. He claims a man that wouldn't yell at him (a man I assume) would therefore not yell at a defenseless woman. He obviously has never met my cowardly brother in law.

Go spend one morning at family court and that theory will be shot to hell man. Intended by the way.

Well I do agree Joel Hellmann is accomplished in his working with children and aspiring actors. Also does do a great job with the theater. Not sure if it qualifies him as a critic of blog humor. (Kidding). I think you have missed some of the points here. Don’t see the calling for law suit due to the pay.

The concern here seems to be mostly the lack of specificity of why she was fired, and why the council will not even try to find out why to cover themselves from liability. That would seem prudent and maybe it could be solved through negotiation of the incident. This would be more to the taxpayer’s advantage then merely saying sue us. That happens to often of late.

You have to admit Joel that there seems to be an awful lot of strangeness in this from the council, town manager and solicitor. The main concern for me is fairness and equality in how Pat’s rights seem to have been handled. It also seems obvious that Pat’s rights were trampled here. I can’t really address the pay issue since it can’t be determined how that actually transpired.

Most of the crime mentioned is about the solicitor stating the council could not get involved in the matter of investigating it, though some may believe it a crime the way she was treated. That is common use of the word for people wronged far as I know.

Think the coward thing is a little over the top. I would love to use my whole name but it is to long for a screen name and just first letter would be confusing as the are 6 more of my family with the same first letter lol.

Thanks for the work you do and it is after all your opinion.

Jack

I think you funny cowboy up ;-}.

I forgot that about running for office but hey free country.

Jack

Running for office is Peter DeAngelis his campaign manager lol.

DISCLAIMER; This has been a blog joke and in no way reflects on the actual parties mentioned in it. It is meant only for proving anyone can have a bad sense of humor or campaign manager.

Still no names. that was expected. just cowards who know nothing about anything.

I have had 20 foster kids currently 3 I have adopted DCYF kids and spent many a day at family court with dispicable people who have done dispicable things you could not begin to imagine. Do not presume to preach to me about things you do not know about. I live with the victims of horrors and pain. You make jokes. dispicable

Talk about serious issues. I'll be happy to talk

wow lighten up there fella, all life does not have to be harsh retoric. Simple ribbing is good for the soul. I have no doubt your a good caring person but nothing wrong with a little humor on lifes foibles i would think. After all is that not what comedy is about. ;-}

Jack

Oh here you dont have to call me a coward anymore. though everytime I put it on here I get nailed for granstanding an such.

Jack Baillargeron

Seriously, I spent 7 plus yrs at family court on a monthly basis until I finally won sole custody because the lies that were being expressed about me were finally exposed.

It seems to me that you sir, are the one expressing an uninformed opinion.

And no, as a free American I am not required by anything to expose myself to anyone I don't wish to, especially someone who is obviously trolling. Why would my identity matter. My "opinions" are just that, opinions.

If we are speaking about facts, what difference does someone's identity make. It is not my actions that are being presented here.

Very true Jaqdadi, I on the other hand am not the brightest bulb on the planet and really don't care in any case. Fool an his money are soon parted and since I have none,I dont care about that either. lol

Life is good as long as you wake up in the morning. Id you wake up dead your in trouble if your looking down at your bed at yourself.

Jack

I must say that I simply cannot support any candidate who puts forth the platform that Mr. Hellman has now expressed above, herein.

But I will keep you in mind, sir, as the race unfolds.

Also, as Patrick Kennedy has shown us, you relly have to be able to hold your temper if you want to hold public office, Mr. Hellmann.

And, they probably haven't issued you a copy of the official rules yet, seeing as you are not yet in office,

but you are not supposed to start slapping us down until AFTER you get elected to ....you know... represent us.

Easy on the trigger, there, 'k?

Or we'll think maybe you're too irrational to hold office.

We can see why, as you admitted, you previously went to great lengths to try to prevent yourself from commenting on blogs like this.

Hmmm, critisizing people you know nothing about. Grandstanding as Jack says. Baseless accusations. Attempts at bullying. You should do quite well in politics.

Lets see some nut cut his parents up and stuffed them in the cesspool in Warren but we could never imagine despicable things Right? You want to be public so nuts like that can harass you?

I had a friend who hung themselves some years back because he had been abused by Geoghan so sure we could never imagine despicable things right? When the guards at Shirley Max allowed Geoghan to be killed I had a beer for my friend.

Frankly anyone with such a high and mighty opinion of themselves that their experiences are so special that no one could even imagine them has some serious issues.

I could tell you some real experiences that would curl your toes but I'm not naive enough to believe that no one could have seen worse.

That exposes a cloistered life imo.

got to agree there downtown

Man, all this bashing is just making me thirstier and thirstier...

There are people who will scream at quiet office subordinates with impunity, yet these same people would never think of speaking in anything but well modulated tones to someone as intensely vocal as our well known hard working for-the-good-of-the town via theatre citizen.

I was not there at either face to face with the TM but I believe BOTH accounts to be true. The TM would never get away with yelling at Joel Hellmann.

Joel, your outburst is shoot-from-the-lips-&-‘tips, kiss-up nonsense.

Your outburst is not based on facts or sound reasoning.

Or any empathy for Pat, who has been horrendously wronged by those to whom you are kissing up.

Barrington Anonymous will not be voting for Joel Hellman.

Thanks for providing this little taste of Hellmann BEFORE the election.

As soon as I can figure out how to remove myself from Kate’s mailing list and as soon as we have a new TC, TM, TA, and TS I will reveal my identity.

For now, I remain Barrington Anonymous.

Bring out the Hellmans, and bring out the ____________?

Where do I begin.....

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IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU RESIST THIS URGE. GO TO CALIFORNIA AND DO STAND-UP COMEDY INSTEAD, UNLESS YOU'VE ALREADY FAILED AT THAT.

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OK, as long as we’re all clear on what the deal is…..

Secretary: “’Phone for you, Mr. Haskell”.

Eddie Haskell: “Who is it?”

Secretary: “It’s Hellbent, sir” (her heels click together as she snaps to attention- Eddie’s new rule).

Eddie Haskell: (Not happy. Not happy at all. Picks up the ‘phone) “Hey….

Hellbent….what happened?! You were supposed to END it, not make it

worse!...I know we promised you …. I know… I said I KNOW what you

were promised….. just keep typing until you turn the tide on this thing…

Like I told you….it’s all about you, Hellbent, YOU’RE our only hope at this

point to pull this thing out …. What? What should you say? I don’t care

what you say! Think of something! You’re the expert here, Hellbent!

Don’t turn chicken on us now! Remember, like you said, you’re the hero

typing against a bunch of lousy cowards! You can BEAT them! I know

you can! YOU MUST!!...Yeah, yeah… come on, don’t make me say it

again…. Alright already….it’s Haskell & Hellbent all the way to the top,

rah, rah, rah…yeah, yeah…nice ring to it, right.”

Eddie Haskell slams down the ‘phone. Mutters to himself…. He thinks

he’s gonna get elected?! Elected?! He wasn’t gonna get elected BEFORE

he went and did this and he thinks he’s gonna NOW?!....

I really love it when these self proclaimed deities of righteousness make these statements theorising that people just don't behave this way, simply because they just wouldn't do something like this.

I've had many, many experiences in my life that disprove that theory. One that comes to mind happened about 15 yrs ago, when an otherwise mild mannered manager\part owner of a computer service company I worked for yelled at me one day because I had expressed my dissatisfaction with a lack of promotion I had been promised about 6 mos prior. Out of about 15 people I had more experience in the business than all of the rest combined. It was my work that was enabling this business to bid on city contracts for computer service.

About 6 mos after this tongue lashing for my audacity at expecting to be compensated for what was expressed to me as outstanding work, (appr 3 mos after I moved on to greener pastures), this company filed for bankruptcy because they were caught in a scheme involving those service contracts and had to pay the city back. Very true story.

Unfortunately these stuations exist and anyone that says otherwise is sadly misstaken.

Another uproariously funny post by cowboyup, rofllmaolol.

People should be more concerned with what causes these posts and not who the poster is.

I guess the shoot the messenger theory is to blame. Nice attempt though, at trying to shame us into revealing ourselves.

I think a previous post was correct, must have hit a nerve.

Well, I'm not a connoisseur of fine comedy - you know like they have in comedy clubs but that CowboyUp skit was some fine writing.

Most likely it won't be appreciated by those characters whose names were changed to protect the innocent but really in fact if you can't laugh at that you either have no sense of humor or well I guess there's only one option no sense of humor.

By thw way, I know who youse guys are, hehe.

Now WE know who HE is, hehe.

Not so fast youse guys...

you forgot your disclaimers.

You know what that means...

if some other nut runs for RI office,

or fails at a California comedy club,

or, worst of all, goes hog wild and posts comments in support of DeAngelis, well...

don't say I didn't warn you.

Politicians or would be ones should not blog without a ghost writer.

1. They always regret what they say.

2. Then they have to try and talk their way out of what they regret.

3. It doesn’t make them appear like an average citizen.

4. They always come across as elitist.

5. They can’t help but mention their accomplishments no matter the subject.

6. I would put 10 of them but it is to easy and boring lol.

Jack

And he was calling us dumb, hmph (Nose in the air).

In response to Mr. Hellman- The Town Hall paychecks, cannot be cashed on a Thurday. They are always dated on Friday. Did you ever think that someone who gets the mail late in the day would want to receive the check on Thursday, so they can go to the Bank first thing

on Friday morning. Please think about these possibilities before you

assume anything. Not everyone has or needs direct deposit.Also Mr.

Hellman you know Pat McGee is an honest caring person, who never

did anything to deserve her fate. If you are going to run for public office, you should hear both sides of a story. The last thing Barrington

needs is another public official who does not want to investigate the

truth. God Bless you for your work with Foster children.

Excerpt from the “BT” article written by Jen DeSisto.

(This is serious, serious business now. All kidding aside, even though it seems like fiction, a real DeSisto actually wrote the article announcing Mr. Hellmann’s candidacy):

“The House of Representatives District 66 race will feature incumbent Democrat Joy Hearn, against Republican challenger Margaret Kane, and Independent candidate Joel Hellmann. District 66 covers portions of Barrington and East Providence.”

Maybe Ms. Kane should contemplate sending Mr. Hellmann some roses or something.

Who is Jen Desisto related to?

Excerpt from Joel Hellmann’s apparent first-ever blog comment:

“I brought the wrath of HELL on Peter DeAngelis. No one can get together an angry room like Joel Hellmann.”

“Nuts” doesn’t begin to describe it.

Just thinking if you take his senario, and as he says the town manager took the high road and remained calm. Then why does Joel assume that Pat did not take the high road and remain calm which is the smart thing to do when confronted with someone screaming at you since it seems that is what the town manager did with Joel who creates anger in a room as he himself says. Just a thought ;-}

Jack

I expect that and susequent comments will come back to haunt Mr (tough guy) Hellman.

Mr. Hellmann also says (in his comment):

“I only know what I read in the paper and my own experiences because no one at town hall will discuss it”…

”Am I to believe that he "screamed" at Pat in front of witnesses? I am sure there was a conversation that she didn't like but you cannot convince me he screamed!”

“Be angry and have a point be sure of your facts. for the stupidity on these blogs…”

Wow…

Mr. Hellmann admonishes us to “be sure of your facts”.

Yet, without being privy to any facts whatsoever (as he admits in his comment), Mr. Hellmann doesn’t hesitate to conclude that “you cannot convince me he (Peter) screamed”.

Mr. Hellmann is obviously unfit for public office.

I'm beginning to wonder if this was in fact really Mr Hellman. I don't know the guy and don't know if he really is that quick to anger. There haven't been any further comments so it leads me to believe it was him and someone tapped on his shoulder. I'd be worried about that guy, he's got a dangerously quick triigger finger.

open mouth and insert foot there jaqdadi. I believe it is call the Joe Biden sysndrum lol.

Jack

or oops I did it again by britney spears lol

You don't have to apologise about your dyslexia Jack. By the way how many darks have you had today?

Re: Hellmann, he's quick to anger and quick to be illogical.

Best not to go hunting with him.

Re: How many darks has Jack had?

Not nearly enough. :)

lolol

Wanted: One angry mob.

Qualifications: Must be able to invoke the wrath of Hell down (up?) upon the heads of the "BT" bloggers.

Education & Experience: None preferred. The less you know the better.

Duties: Assisting in writing a really nasty "Letter to the Editor" because bloggers can't talk back to those. Said letter is already in draft form and is now being reviewed for publication.

Contact: Joel Hellmann.

Actually none since I last seen you jaqdadi lol.

I was sincere and not angry at all in any of my comments. I am not afraid of town hall or the school administration. I have taken all of them on face to face not hiding behide multiple false identities. face to face what a concept. Using your own names! wow how radical!

And mostly I am not afraid of any of you.

Thank you all for the comments. I run as an independent not to win but to be able to comment on issues. I never expect oto win. But you guys give me hope.

I mean What a bonus! what a boost! I will save these comments and use them in campaigning. It will be a huge advantage to my campaign. Nothing better than having the lunitic fringe attack you for hours. hundreds of people have complaines to me and more importantly to the Times about you guys. Why do you think you were taken off?

Because you were popular?

Because you were ready to write for Leno?

Because people hate what your doing. Lots of people!

Some of you are considered to be so crazy and dangerous by the majority of the town, that To be attacked by you greatly enhances credibilty of any candidate. I mean who would want to be associated with the foolish things you write! To be derided by you is the highest badge of honor.

Don't you understand? I can't buy this kind of advertising! Maybe if you keep it up, the times will consider it news and write a real article about it. I will come out as the guy who stood up to those lunitics on line!

Of course you don't use your real names and the times doesn't print with out names often. So probably only my side will get out. Journalism 101: attribute the quotes.

I am so very grateful to you all. Thank you, Thank you, thankyou! You have made my day!

Thank You Jack for signing your name. I single you out as a man who stands by what he says. You are obviously an honest man. I respect people who disagree with me or even don't like me. Even make fun of me. If they have the courage to say it to my face. You have my respect Jack. Feel free to say anything you want. I've got broad shoulders I can take it.

The rest of you just got me about 250 votes. Yes people hate you that much. thanks again!

Joel Hellmann

Well I thank you for the compliment as I do prefer to stay on the issues and debate. If it gets heated then I agree to disagree on things. I do joke at times and believe me some of this things in Barrington town hall last 18 months are laughable which in itself is sad, true, and funny all at the same time. Let’s face it you can’t make this stuff up sometimes.

We must all remember that no-one has all the facts when a story like this breaks, we all comment and assume things and some have more information on the actual story then others. I do think you are mistaken on the many screen names being the same person. Calling some crazy and dangerous is uncalled for and only causes that which your opposed to.

Most of the ones on here I know personally. There are a couple who do what your saying I don’t converse with them anymore, they also were the main reason it was removed before. It was also removed due to political action committee’s constantly pasting over and over and a lot of hateful and racist vitriol. Most of that has been taken care of.

There was also a few ( internet trolls ) which is defined as a person of multiple screen names constantly changing following other posters and creating havoc by name calling and statements not congruent with the terms of service. These are very hard to prevent with out added cost to the paper.

I hope this forum stays up a long time, it was instrumental in getting a lot of people and information on the Vision Appraisal problem last year, BCWA rate increase and getting people involved in politics in the towns this paper services. I thank the paper for that. Whether people agree or disagree with anything matters not. What matters is they get involved in some way with even the smallest thing. Mr. Mcquattie was helped a lot also by this forum for his vet bills.

Some have started other efforts through this forum to do very good things; there is always more to the story than just what’s written in the paper. Having said all this may we get back to the story at hand.

The fact remains that the Council is responsible for the employee’s that work for the town. Bottom line they are the last vestige of hope for an employee. The Town manager works for them period. They are always involved in anything that effects budgets and firing and hiring obviously comes under that, does it not?

Jack

Opps to long im in trouble darn it lol

WARNING: IF YOU ARE AMONG THE 252 WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR JOEL HELLMANN PLEASE, PLEASE CLOSE YOUR EYES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WHAT FOLLOWS IS NOT FUNNY AT ALL. SERIOUSLY. JOEL HAS DEEMED IT UNFUNNY IN ADVANCE. AND JOEL IS THE SELF-APPOINTED DICTATOR OF “FUNNY”. SO HE GETS TO HAVE THE FINAL SAY.

Secretary: “Mr. Haskell, it’s Hellbent on the ‘phone again. He says he needs to speak with you right now and he says to HURRY he has good news! Mr. Haskell, I think he’s been drinking again.”

Eddie Haskell: (rolling his eyes) “Yes, Hellbent, what is it now? …. What?...Yeah, I saw your comment! A poll? Seriously?! What were you thinking?! You tell them you took a poll and it shows that you have 250 MORE votes? To add to what, our two that you think already had in the bag?... Hellbent, I’m not sure you can count on my vote…

And, uh, you probably don’t realize this, but nobody actually believes that 250 people are gonna vote for you anyway…

And, the alleged 250 who supposedly complained to you about those comments….

That means you’re admitting that all those friends of yours are READING the comments, dimwit!!....

Oh, and you say that you run as an independent KNOWING that you WON’T win?! You realize that that makes you look fairly stupid, right?...OK, just checking….

And. ..ah…that part about the broad shoulders…. I wouldn’t go there if I were you, Hellbent…..it’s just begging the ques… uh…what?

The part about Jack?.... Oh, yeah, well that wasn’t the brightest thing you’ve done lately, either, Hellbent… Why? Because you went and gave JACK PERMISSION to POST?! ONLY JACK?! So now what? It’s gonna be only you and Jack talking to each other? And you think that’s an IMPROVEMENT?!

Remember what I told you, Hellbent, say it in your head BEFORE you write it down…

Yeah, yeah, I know you want to control what people say in the blogs, but hang it up, Hellbent, you’ve lost whatever small amount of credibility you may have had. It’s over man…..OVER! No… no…. it didn’t work, man, it didn’t work – and that whole thing where you try to scare them into revealing their identities… and you pretend that you are God and you can invoke Hell and all that….. THAT was one strange approach, by the way …but it didn’t work. Face it… it... just… didn’t…. work. You can’t scare them into doing what you want. You just look like a mad control freak is all.

Look, I’m on the hot seat for that wrongful termination as it is…. I don’t know if I should be in bed with you on this thing anymore…..

What….an article in the “Barrington Times”? Where you orally slap at anonymous bloggers? You and 250 imaginary friends? OK, well, yeah, that MIGHT …just ….work…. But, hey, get Widemouth’s permission first, OK? ‘Cause that’s her schtick and you don’t want to step on Widemouth’s toes….

Look, I gotta go. I got a 'phone call about a dirty deck...”

Humm just me and hell posting, nah that would never work I get enough flack about posting to much now lol.

Oh well I digress, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free, Set Pat free,

Jack

Hey cowboyup I love the dirty deck story lol.

It was a very bad, bad, dirty, dirty deck, Jack.

Rehire Pat, rehire Pat, rehire Pat!

Odd how he doesn't actually respond to anything while claiming that he responds to everything.

Typical of politicians that get elected in this state. Talk a lot and say nothing.

lol downtown, night guy

Forgive my interruption...I just want to comment on-topic for a moment:

Isn't anybody else from the private sector shaking their heads over this story?

Regardless of whether or not a firing was valid or even legal, can you imagine a private-sector employee contacting every stockholder.....then asking the board of directors to intervene?

I'm sure that would turn out well.

That is all....please carry on with your lengthy, personal, semi-on-topic discussions. (Hey, isn't that what killed the comments in the first place?)

What happens in the private sector really doesn't qualify with a public town job. If you read the article instead of finding fault with those that post here you would notice that it was her husband sending an email voicing HIS displeasure at the way his wife was being treated, hardly equivalent to someone contacting every shareholder seperately to complain.

I believe most people associated with management in the private sector do shake their heads at the way this situation was and is being handled, mishandled is more like it.

This woman was yelled at, held in a room and told she couldn't leave, and only after a lawyer made contact, her check was couriered to her along with a termination letter. I've been in the private sector my whole life and i'll tell you this guy would have been fired in an instant at most of the places i've worked at.

"What happens in the private sector really doesn't qualify with a public town job."

Why shouldn't it?

I think you misunderstood me (or I wasn't clear)....the point I was making was that contacting the media to air complaints was like contacting stockholders for the same reason, rather than just calling a lawyer.

Calling a lawyer for what at that point? There was no justification for calling a lawyer before the incident. I think you miss the whole point and are trying to defend the indefensible. A man yelled at a woman and held her hostage. I fail to see whats not clear in that.

Are you trying to say he isn't to blame because her husband sent an email to someone? If I have a problem with the actions of a man, I go to him, not his wife. I guess i'm a little old fashioned in that respect.

By the way, if this were a private sector issue, she would not only have a wrongful termination lawsuit, but a hostile work environment case as well. For exposing a company to that he would surely face termination.

However it was not her that contacted the media it was her husband and the town has no control over a citizen speaking his or her mind. That is the main thing in this story is that she is being penalized for the actions of another. Whether they are related or not makes no difference.

Unless the town manager could prove she asked him to do it. There is no cause in order for him to terminate her. On the private sector there is a process in companies through human services with in the company and yes it can got to the president of the company if need be. But every rule of labor in this country clearly states that it should be solved at the lowest level possible.

The recent thing in the news even got the whitehouse involved, why because she is an employee of the government at the executive level, I.E. Dept. of Agriculture. The bottom line is the town council is her last resort before a law suit and they are choosing to ignore it. This is the past thinking there and why legal bills sky rocket due to ego's in towns. Rather they should be talking. Least thats my take on it.

Jack

Listen to you simpletons arguing back and forth and acting as if your opinion really matter. To hear JackB talk about these forums one would think that the next winner of the Nobel Peace Prize might come from here. Jack you are one of the main reasons why these pages were shut down. You ramble on and on about nothing with no facts to verify your points. You comment on every story regardless of it location. You are the troll anyone who spends as much time on here as you do needs to get a life. I know you take the role of court jester and hero of the stupid very seriously but for the love of God get something better to do with your time then speculate on every story and prove your rampant stupidity. I have a feeling that when the comments section went down Jack was probably curled up in a ball for a few days and then began to shake uncontrollably while typing his hypocrisy and lies to no one.

How eloquent, lolololol.

THat goes for you as well Jaqdad. Why don't the two of you actually just get it over with and go to mass and get married. Have Jethro do the honors for you two pirates.

Are you two lawyers or is that just another thing that Jack has read a little about and is now gracing us with his deep thoughts and hot air.

Jack's not my type, I like em quiet and obedient, lol.

"Hero of the stupid"--Hee!

Hey youse guys (Jack, jaqdadi, etc.) … you are my Heroes!

Hey youse guys, ...

they read every word you write! And they think you’re lawyers!

Good job, youse guys. You are very smart. And you’re funny, too.

Now, some say they don’t like these comments…

But that’s hard to believe because, well, they can’t seem to stay away now can they?

And anyone who tries to defend what Peter did to Pat…

Well, first they have to put legalities aside, and

then they have to put validity aside, and

then, they have to put forth these strange non-sequitur-non-applicable analogies, and

finally, well, they simply have to suspend disbelief.

‘Cause defending what DeAngelis did .... it can’t be done.

Signed,

Simpleton & Proud of It

(keep on keepin’ it simple youse guys)

“La da da da da da… Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose…” (From “Me & Bobby McGee”, Kris Kristofferson)

Thank you, thank you, thank you, (while bowing). lolol

The town manager's personnel decision about the clerk position is questionable to begin with (as it smacks of favoritism all over).

If the town manager needs the town council to know about his clerk decision in advance, then why not just tell them first? ... they all have e-mail now.

This is not a matter of the leaking of a town secret ... because the decision is about a public service position and this is public information ... the taxpayers have the right to know who is hired into this position ... and why ... we pay the salary!

The real issue here ... is that the town manager doesn't like the fact that someone disagrees with his favoritism ... and more importantly ... that this person is brave enough to call him out on it ... this is an obvious case of favoritism.

When the town manager was called out on his favoritism ... that's when he started reshuffling his story ... deciding to not have a deputy after all ... and shuffle this ... and shuffle that ... and all the rest ... all to help cover his tracks ... his favoritism tracks

This is why he yelled at Pat and conducted an "interrogation" of her ... because someone had the nerve to call him out on his blatent favoritism ... the writer of the e-mail cried "FOUL" ... for the whole town and the whole world to see it ... and it was a foul ... plain and clear ... and the town manager's only defense against the correct call of foul ... was a hard-hitting offense aginst Pat ... to discredit her and to thereby discredit the correct call of a foul ... and so ... this is the reason for the heavy handed interrogation ... the yelling and screaming ... and the attack on Pat's good name in the press ... by referencing this "high standard" requirement ... and suggesting that she does not meet a high standard ... and insinuating that she had done something wrong ... some violation of something ... notice however ... that the town manager references no specifics in his public comment about exactly what Pat did ... and how this is a violation of a specific policy ... he gives no specific justification for the firing ... because ... he doesn't have one ... because ... SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!

The town manager was trying again to rig the system ... he was playing favorites ... and someone caught him doing it ... and this someone had the guts to call it ... FOUL! ... and so the town manager changes his story to cover his tracks ... then he huddles with the town solicitor to work out the legal cover for an attack ... then he attacks the helpless victim ... then he muddies the victim's name name in public ... in his Barrington Times quote about her ... then he enlists and receives the full support of the town council to finish the job ... AND HE GETS THEIR FULL SUPPORT ...no questions asked ... see how this works ? ... one town councilor even had the nerve to scold Pat publicly and tell her that the firing was her own doing! ...

This is why these problems don't get rooted out ... because the town council allows them to continue ... thay allow them to take place ... and they even encourage them ... by reinforcing the improper action ... and by blindly following and by not challenging this town manager ...

I must say ... this is pretty much a complete con job by the town manager ... very well done ... first to have the gall to play the favoritism card ... and then to attack the victim after you are called on it ... and then to be able to circle the town wagons so completely ... with the town solicitor ... and every single town councilor ... to convince each and every one of them to pile on with you to further slam this victim ... without ever a question of the town manager about it ... or without ever raising a single concern about your management decisions involved ... or the quality of the personnel communications ... or the town manager's changing story about the clerk position ... or about this interrogation of the employee ... or without ever requesting clarity about exactly what this employee did to deserve to be fired after nine years of stellar service ... or about the doctor's assessment ... or the lawyer's note ... NOTHING

Are Barrington's town councilors telling us that they don't believe that our town manager did anything wrong in this case? nothing? he's completely in the right? ... come on ... what kind of game is this?

How can you have the system be so rigged in you favor ... to get away with the favoritism ... and then all the questionable personnel management that followed it ...

... and the town manager is not the party to blame here ... he's just taking what the town council gives him ... they just gave him carte blanch on the personnel goof ... it's unconditional ... one councilor even chewed out the victim for him! ... they just gave him a double-digit salary increase in the middle of the recession ... of course he's going to take it ... he'll take all he can finagle ... from our town council ... OBVIOUSLY!

Bottom line is this ... the favoritism was called out ... the employee didn't do anything ... the firing was unfair at best and will likely be proven to be illegal ... and our town councilors are not managing this town manager ... and our town manager is taking full advantage of the sleepy council ... which is what triggers the favoritism in the first place ... and round and round it goes

remember ... this is only the stuff that we are SEEING ... there's likely much more that never makes the papers ... we've seen the employee favoritism ... the improper firing ... the hiding of documents ... the double-digit salary increases ... the pension bonuses ... it's all the same pattern ... just fill in the blank ... add impropriety and stir ... I wonder what he's got cooked up for us next ...

Wow, I actually read all that and it is relevent. When one thinks about all the posted stories that have been coming out of Barrington over the last year and a half or so it has been piling up. It does indicate a pattern that doesn't appear to be ending anytime soon.

It makes you wonder why? If this town is being run by people like June Speakman, with all her knowledge of politics and understanding of what the appearance of impropriety means, then you have to consider that there is a sickness in that town's government that isn't being addressed.

I hope it can be contained before it leaks out and starts infecting other towns nearby. With what happened in Central Falls and the possibility of that particular problem happening elsewhere in this state it can have the effect of driving away good people who would be able to stand up to it.

That would be absolutely devastating. If all that was left standing were complicit people this problem would never go away. But, alas, these infections usually get worse until so many people are affected there is nothing left but the most damaging cure that takes a very long time to recover from.

I hope it doesn't get that bad there. I hope it can be fixed before it does get any worse.

This problem in Barrington is systematic ... and it will not be fixed any time soon ... the council doesn't even understand that they are the root cause of the problem ... and they have no clue what this town manager is up to

The appropriate headline of this article should be ...

"Council will never investigate town manager"

He plays them like a flute ... time and again ... how many town managers across America received a double-digit salary increase during this financial crisis?

... and our bumbling boob is the only town manager in the nation who qualifies for one? ... doubt it

... he concocted this bogus longevity bonus for ... HIMSELF ... and they give away it to him ... with accolades ... no questions asked!

He's shown what he's worth ... everyone's getting the picture now ...

... and this council won't move ... because ... if they acknowledge the facts ... and face the truth ... and admit the problem ... and study the root cause ... then ... it all leads back to them ... and they're not ready, willing, or able ... to take that responsibility ...

... and this is why ... all of these problems in town ... have piled up ... one on top of the other ... and ... there's probably lots more to come ... before this situation gets straightened out

Barrington ... great place to live ... but ... town government is a joke ... mutual admiration society ... very unprofessional ... local yokels

How can Professor June Speakman's students get any value for their tuition, when she does not believe or practice what she preaches?

I'm sure that our town council president is a great poli-sci instructor ... and she is to be applauded for her volunteer service to the town of Barrington ...

But ... sorry to say ... her contribution to our actual town management is counter-productive ... our town manager is not managed ... our town solicitor steers the ship into the rocks frequently ... and then bills us well to help release it ... he has a backlog of legal and policy crises to show for his sage guidance ...

We're constantly chasing our collective town tail ... in problem after problem ... legal problems, policy problems, and business problems ... one after another ... can't seem to get the appraisal right ... can't seem to get the public information into the hands of the public ... can't seem to keep the legal fees down ... can't seem to get this town manager's salary under control ... can't seem to help out the American Legion ... can't seem to have an orderly progression upon the clerk's retirement ... can't seem to stop blaming the victims ... or the judges ... or the press ... or the citizens ... can't do this ... and can't do that ...

Our town council is stuck in the non-performace funk of a lifetime ... letters attacking judges and victims of our flawed system ... and never can seem to anticipate these problems ... or to figure them out and properly deal with them as they surface ... always behind the curve by a few weeks or a by several months ...

Now ... if you need a team to spend a half million bucks on a $50k boat house ... then this is your group ... they can spend our money quite well ... especiallly if teh expenditure might provide them a high visibility project ... high enough visibility to turn our attention away from the problems that this council causes

The articles regarding the unfair dismissal of Pat McGee, and the refusal of the Town Council to even look into this fiasco, have totaled 7841 and 2342 views. Many of the comments on this issue and so many others over the recent years, have been well documented, well researched and intelligently written, providing an important education to us all. With so many viewers following these comments, it is disappointing, in my opinion, that there are not more concerned citizens voicing their outrage at how our town is being run by the town council, the town manager, the town solicitor and don't forget our town assessor. Thanks to all who share their expertise and knowledge regarding such important issues.

Speak out taxpayers! Let your voices be heard!

We deserve strong leadership, which is honest and legal.

There is a Barrington Town Council meeting scheduled for August 2.

Please get family and friends to picket the arrival of the Council, and to continue the protest in an orderly manner when the meeting starts.

Ask to speak during public imput, so that Barrington will be returned to a Democracy. Their refusal to help an innocent woman, who loved her job, and who is now without a job, has no Health Insurance, no

pension, and because the Town Manager deliberately ruined her reputation, has no future. This is the kind of thing that usually only

happens in a Dictatorship or Communist Country, not in the United

States of America.

YES ...

strong leadership ... honest and legal ... plain and simple

This basic service mantra has proven to be quite a challenge for Barrington to achieve for some reason ...

Our situation has become quite complicated ... and it requires a lot of changes ... and it will take much time and effort to correct and reverse the problems here ...

It starts with hiring a professional town manager ... not an "up-through-the-ranks-local-yokel-working-the-system-to-his-personal-benefit-at-every-turn" guy ... not a "water-down-the-requirements-for-me" guy ... but a real pro ... trustworthy ... and not conniving ... no favoritism .. and no mysterious bonus longevity pay schemes ... for himself ... or in order to exert improper control over others ... just a fair salary for the jobs at hand kind of guy guy ... simple and straight ... around the horn ... and fair progression for all ... based on objective service and performance goals .. clearly stated ... with formal systems for cross-training ... and doing more with less ... and not a "who-you're-related-to-spoils-system" guy

... then we need a professional solicitor who can provide the manager and the council with sound legal advice ... balanced advice ... based on what is best for the town and the residents involved ... not based on whatever you think you can get away with by leveraging the town resouorces against the citizen ... or based on someone's political agenda of the day ... or based on how you can stick it ... financially ... to the pesky citizen who asks too many questions as a favor to someone else in the system ...

Then we need smart and reasonable town councilors ... practical people ... with some sense of fairness ... who can check their egos at the door ... and do the business of the town in a practical and reasonable way ... if hundreds and hundreds of citizens are so upset about theri reval ... and they present a reasonable case ... then maybe there's a problem worth addressing ... rather than reciting the number votes you received ... as a justification for selective inaction ... at your choosing ...

... and maybe the fly-off-the-handle letters to the judges and the newspapers ... and the victims ... justifying the nonsense ... don't really represent the views of your constituents at all ... maybe this defensive and self-serving "hijacking" of public opinion is not your responsibility ... or your role ... or your right ... as a our councilor

... and maybe we don't want a constant flow of letters and warnings from the state attorney general's office, or the superior court judges, or whoever is called in to clean up your latest mess

... and ... maybe managing the service quality of the town manager and the town solicitor is part of the job here ... and part of the responsibility to your constituents ... your intervention being the only oversight ... the most important component of the checks and balances within our system of local government ...

... and ... maybe granting this double-digit salary increase to the town manager during a serious financial crisis is irresponsible ... and maybe it sends the wrong message to the union ... and to your consituents ... no matter how much you personally believe in our town manager ... or how many great things he says about you ...

and ... maybe you owe it to the citizens to hash out the public issues in front of them ... and with them ... at the public meeting ... rather than arriving together at the meeting with a pre-agreed unanimous decision among yourselves already in-hand ...

One thing is for sure ...

... this anonymous public review forum ... provided as a public service by this newspaper ... is the public's best defense ... against the ongoing questionable and improper behavior of the Barrington town manager and town solicitor .... and the best check on the weak oversight and poor judgment of the Barrington town council.

Some say it is not our business , that it was a management decision , let Pat McGee get her own legal counsel, bla, bla.

In actuality, and as someone pointed out, it would be a costly battle for her up against this town , which will yawn at just another pesky lawsuit so let the lawyers and insurance handle it while they have other more glamorous, Beautiful Barrington Business to tout, like a bathhouse (which will be defaced by our homegrown vandals the first night, you betcha).

Those who have followed the story know that it is but the tip of the iceburg of the people holding the power at this time and appreciate that an inquiry is a necessary step to resolve this apparent injustice( and possible cronyism ). We'll never know for certain if it is not brought out into the open.

This TC turned down virtually an entire highschool auditorium of taxpayers asking that the tax assessing be performed by another company after so many flaws were pointed out in Vision's handiwork.

They didn't take the time to deliberate, but stood by the TA and TM, probably as advised by the TS and kept Vision.

The tax board of review has the gigantic and unpopular task of cleaning up after this mess. Watch an eye-opening session Tues 7/27 from 9-3 in the town hall lower level to see how difficult for everyone (except the TC and TS and TM) this can be.

I am still embarrassed at how blithely the TC turned down that request for a donation by another East Bay community for a very worthwhile cause. We should have stepped up to the plate for that gentleman, and now we are being handed another chance.

How to proceed honestly and legally and as good citizens is next, please.

The property owners in Barrington have a very practical reason to demand better from their Town Government. The fair market value of their homes will decrease as fewer buyers will want to live in a Town that is governed by an autocracy, that can hurt anyone they

want, or reward friends who are loyal.

If this town council won't listen to a gymnasium full of citizens questioning their tax appraisals with well documented financial analysis ... then they're not going to listen to a few dozen citizens ... questioning the labor and management practices of the town manager ...

... after the councilor already gave the town manager his double-digit bonus ... and carte blanche on the favoritism ... and turned the blame for his fiasco onto the victim publicly ... she'll do everything in her power to keep everyone towing the line ... same for the town manager ... and his lackey solicitor

You are asking her ... to admit her mistake ... to apologize to the victim ... and then to fix the real problem ... sorry ... but that is way too much responsibility for her ... or any one of these councilors ...

It's unanimous! ... the town manager is spectacular ... and the victim is guilty ... and the other stuff with the taxes and the AG? ... well it will take care of itself ... eventually ... so let's move on ... how are these architect's plans coming for the new beach house cabana?

Your right there imjustsaying, I had forgot about that big meeting. They a hard headed bunch for sure. real shame about that.

Jack

AUTOCRACY- That was the reason the Council would not listen to a

gymnasium full of citizens. They are not really in

charge.

Forwarding information from Jack- To help Pat McGee get her job

back, contact, bremen7299@cox.net

Forwarding information from Jack- Anyone who would like to help Pat McGee get her job back contact bremen7299@cox.net

To "reinstate Pat"-while I admire you greatly for your tenacity in attempting to get this woman her job back, You seem to be going about it in the wrong way. First, I would hire a competent and aggressive attorney who is well versed in contract and labor law. Next, I would urge the town hall workers to immediately file a request with the National Labor Relations Board to hold an election and certify the results to form a union. Finally, the last person I would hire/retain to help this woman get her job back is the old sage/know it all/self appointed king of eastbayri.com, the great Jack B. While Jack may have good intentions, his lack of spelling and grammatical skills won't make the greatest impression with the powers to be when it comes to making a decision on re-hiring Ms. McGee. A more appropriate job for Jack in the fight to reinstate Ms. McGee might be having him stand in front of Barrington Town Hall with a sandwich board type sign, or having him lick/stuff envelopes for a publicity campaign, etc. Anything that doesn't require the written or spoken word would be much more appropriate for his level of education and intelligence.

response to reinstatePat

Should add the all e-mail to that address, bremen7299@cox.net

Is merely tranfered to the appropiate people who are working on this.

This to keep those people and the e-mailers from being harrassed or intimidated, spam etc, by those who get their jollies out of that. The box is secure and e-mails are protected and removed from the box once forwarded.

Jack

I was wondering if the Town Council was going to investigate the Barrington Payroll Department to see what part they may have played in the holding of Mrs. McGee's wages ?

Go! go! go! Madonna!

I do advise you to be careful what you say though, if something does make it in his meatball sandwhich that comment could come back to haunt you, lolol.

Investigate the town manager's double-digit salary increase ... and how this absurdity came to be ... it's quite insulting actually ... when you consider what has happened to the taxpayers in this town

Peter DeTakefromus is way ... way ... overpaid

I know that Pat McGee is feeling terribly sad, she misses going to a job she loved and is terrified that without Health Insurance an illness

involving her or her husband could wipe out a lifetime of hard work.

She also feels that no one will ever hire her again because of the

mean spirited Termination letter by Peter DeAngelis. Please say a prayer that a truly kind woman will get the chance to go back to work

and show that nothing is impossible when you have the truth behind you.

To help Pat McGee get her job back, please contact bremen7299@cox.net

Many of us can relate to Pat. millions of people in America have been fired from their jobs abruptly and unjustly, because of the economy.

When working for a private business, large or small, many of us have no contract, no security.The state of Rhode Island even has a law that states the "we are an employee at will" meaing we can be fired anytime for any reason, right or wrong. I was told by a former employer,( a business that I worked for and put alot of blood sweat and tears into for 13 years) that my "position was being eliminated" on the phone in a conversation with my boss that began with me calling him to tell him I had just got word that my Father was dying, thus I needed to get on a plane pronto and I was making sure he *my boss) was aware that everything was covered, etc....it still blows my mind that someone could be so callous, clueless and despicable. There is no integrity or humanity left in the world I fear.

And honestly, I just need to say this....can Joel Hellman just be quiet, he has so little of substance to say.

To help Pat McGee get her job back, please contact bremen7299@cox.net

To "reinstatePat"-In addition to sending the e-mails, what you need to do is contact all the other town hall workers who have been enslaved by Peter "Hitler" DeAngelis for all these years, and encourage them to UNIONIZE. This jerk DeAngelis will keep on bullying the town hall workers as long as he knows they have no union to protect or represent them. While I admire your efforts to mount an e-mail campaign on behalf of Ms. McGee, the time has come to play hardball against this tyrant DeAngelis. Get those town hall workers unionized before the next employee becomes a victim of this modern day dictator.

Please call Barrington Town Council members, and ask them if they have ever done an employee evaluation of the Town Manager, and

if it is in writing. If not, then how did they decide to give him those

pay raises and Pension increases.

Any review of the town manager by the town council will be glowing ... the real test is his public performance ... and the circumstances regarding his habit of working the system behind the scenes ... lower the standards for me ... give me a longevity bonus ... because my "institutional" knowledge is valuable to you ...

The poor performance ... and the favoritism ... and the bullying ... of the town manager creates a need to unionize all of the town workers? ... there is something wrong with that picture

Please help Pat McGee get her job back. Contact bremen7299@cox.net

Another tip of the iceberg, FYI our town manager Peter Deangelis receive's free, no co pay health care from the town of Barrington, while his wife a teacher at the Primrose School Susan (Martha) DeAngelis receive's a health care BUY BACK from the school department for not taking the health care benefit package. Is there a bigger self serving crook in all the land???

Lets add this to the list the things this town council will never investigate !!!!!

Are you saying there's another Barrington government manager with 2 Barrington pensions in the family?

Hey, if his wife is a teacher, does Peter DeAngelis have responsibility for negotiating any teacher contracts that benefit his wife (& himself)?

Didn't he recently say that he saves money on Barrington contract negotiations because he doesn't pay for legal advice, he does the negotiations himself?

Maybe he's not really saving the Barrington taxpayers any money? Maybe he's benefitting from the contracts he negotiates? Maybe it's not exactly "arm's length"?

And, if he's giving quotes to the press, and if his wife works for Barrington, shouldn't his wife be fired now?

Or if she is a teacher, is she in a union and safe from his unjust dictatorship?

So many questions...no investigations.

response to cowboyup

This is starting to look like a Bell California mini scandal if all is true lol. One has to wonder why politicians are so inept at covering their tracks and avoiding the appearance of impropriety which at one time was a noble thing but seems to have been lost on the current pile of politicians and bureaucrats. I guess it is the delusion disease of Godhood or legends in their own minds. What a shame we have come to this around the country it seems.

Jack

Our Eddie Haskells town manager goes on and on about the vision and outstanding leadership or our town council (his bosses) ... in return for this nonsense ... our praise deprived town council returns the false accolades, along with a very long leash ...

... in a normal town management situation (i.e. proper overrsight of the town manager) you don't have a town manager pressing for his own double-digit salary increase during the middle of a recession ... and you don't have a town manager firing an innocent employee because of his own favoritism ... because you have proper oversight in place as a deterrent to these improper behaviors ...

... this town manager knows that he has no oversight ... he will not have an inquiry ... and ... instead ... he will have the full support of the town council for any questionable activities ... the town council fell all over him to support his bogus bonus scheme ... as well as his improper firing of a very nice (and very innocent) employee just days before her vesting.

These kinds of management travesties can't happen unless you have a weaqk town manager brimming with overconfidence (and a signal from his bosses to do it). He's not going to risk his own boondoggle to fire an innocent employee, unless he gets a message from the town council that they will support his questionable activities ... and he obviously has his signal.

... same with the town solicitor ... he's not going to go out of his way to twist the town regulations to favor questionable management activities unless he knows that the town council will be "on-board" with this nonsense ... that they will OK it ... that they will allow certain improprieties ...

... then the council comes through ... as expected ... adding insult to injury ... by blaming the victim publicly ... they twist the story and overlook the facts themselves ... in order to make everything fit ... because ... someone must be to blame for this problem ... you can't condone the poor management behavior ... without being willing to blame the victim ... because ... it won't carry unless you do so ... you must act forcefully in support of the nonsense ... just like you can't easily justify the town manager's bogus bonus during a recession without forcefully overstating the town manager's rather mediocre performance ...

They are in it together, this bunch, just like the bunch in Bell, California ... you can't pull this off alone ... you don't get ongoing travesties like this with individuals acting on their own ... because ... the upstanding others won't put up with it ...

... if we had diligent oversight from the town council, then the town manager wouldn't dare to do these things ... if we had a trustworthy and fair town manager, then he wouldn't do these things even though the proper oversight may be missing ... but when you have the combination of no oversight AND an untrustworthy town manager, then you've got trouble ... and we've got plenty of it in Barrington ...

... just take a look at the list ... and add it up sometime ... it's way too much trouble and questionable activities for our small town ... something is wrong with this picture ... and we're beginning to see what it is ...

Peter DeAngelis gets free Health Care, his wife gets paid cash by the

Town for not using her Health coverage, which she doesn't need because she is covered under her husbands coverage, all the while

Pat McGee has no health coverage because Peter DeAngelis fired her

for something she did not do.

To help Pat McGee get her job back please contact

bremen7299@cox.net

Would someone please find out if Peter DeAngelis negotiated any

Teacher contracts, because seeing that his wife is a teacher it would

appear that it would be a conflict of interest.

TOWN OF BARRINGTON APPEALS PAT MCGEE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!!! A RELIABLE SOURCE HAS SAID THAT THE TOWN

HAS SUNK TO A NEW LOW BY TRYING TO STOP PAT MCGEE FROM

COLLECTING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. THIS MEANS ANOTHER

FEE FOR THE TOWN SOLICITOR. THE TOWN MANAGER APPARENTLY WANTS TO FURTHER HURT A WOMAN WHO DID NOTHING WRONG.

IT WAS NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE HER JOB, HEALTH BENEFITS, PENSION,REPUTATION. THIS BY A TOWN MANAGER WHO WITH HIS

WIFE COLLECTS HUGE PAY DAYS, FREE HEALTH CARE, AND HUGE

BONUSES. NOW THE TOWN IS TRYING TO TAKE MONEY PAT MCGEE

NEEDS FOR FOOD AND SHELTER.

Once the decision is made by the town manager to fire an innocent employee in order to cover-up his own inappropriate favoritism ... this triggers several other bogus actions by him and others to finish the job ...

(a) the town manager must convince the public to question the integrity of the victim without facts ... this was attempted by the town manager in his quote from the town manager in which he explained his actions without any facts or details in the BT article

(b) the town solicitor must twist the town regulations in such a way as to support the bogus actions of the town manager ... this twisting was attempted by the town solicitor during the discussion of the employee's complaint at subsequent town council meeting.

(c) the town council must fully and strongly approve the town manager's bogus action ... the "fully" was attempted by the town council's 5-0 vote in favor of condoning the bogus action of the town manager ... and the "strongly" was attempted by the councilor's public chastising of the victim ... and the placing of the blame for this bogus action of the town manager on the victim.

(d) the town solicitor must intervene in the formal employment benefits process to block the victim from collecting her valid unemployment benefits ... he must convince a state official that the victim is to blame for her firing ... or else there will be more trouble for the town officials

If the town manager's chroniesare not willing to go along with his impropriety by doing a + b + c + d above, then the town manager's case in court is weakened and the management failure is exposed for what it is ... and the town manager and the town become liable for the improprieties of our "unmanaged" town manager

I thought the meat ball comment was tongue in cheek and actually funny, though hellman says none of know humor. lol

jaqdadi is the only comment i seen on the meatball madonna and it was actually also tongue in cheek ;-}.

Jack

Like to thank those getting the word out on this and offering help through the e-mail forward system of bremen7299@cox.net.

It is very heart warming to see people stick up for others rights in this day and age after so much apathy in the last few decades.

Jack

The circumstances surrounding the town manager's favoritism and his inappropriate treatment and firing of a stellar public servant just days before her vesting date ... were called into question because this bogus story wasn't washing ... based on the irregularities reported ... this situation should have been promptly and properly investigated by the town council ...

... If Pat McGee can muster the determination and the resources to bring this town manager to real justice, then there will be many questions regarding the town solicitor's twisted interpretation of the town regulations ... as well as the town council's refusal to act on this matter given the irregularities that were reported to them ...

... When pressed on this matter, the town council will claim ignorance of the facts and they will hide behind the solicitor recommendation ... which was set up to provide legal cover for the town manager and the town council ...

... look at the case where they were caught (again) hiding public records ... when pressed by the AG regarding their obvious infractions ... the town officials changed their stories and claimed ignorance ... the same thing will happen in this case ... same MO ... different crisis ...

... how do these people get any real work done?

Pat has already prevailed the first time around on the issue of whether she will be allowed to collect.

Pat prevailed.

The state reviewed all the facts and concluded that Pat was fired through no fault of her own.

Pat prevailed - the state thought she was in the RIGHT.

So, now the Town & Mr. Ursillo want to add insult to injury for poor Pat by APPEALING?

Yup, that sounds exactly like what this town government would do.

You have to wonder about anyone who gets their thrills by kicking a lovely woman to the curb for no good reason...

and then APPEALING the state's decision that she is entitled to the unemployment benefits that will put the food on her table for a few months while she undertakes a fruitless search for work in this bad economy....

Peter DeAngelis and our Town Council & Town Solicitor must be all a-titter tonight.

This is a new low, even for them.

What happened to Pat could happen to almost anyone who works for the Town of Barrington,

union or not....

on August 2, 2010, in 2 meetings beginning at 7:00 pm, the

Appropriations Committee and the Town Council are going to take up

the question of gettting rid of the unionized DPW staff.

Maybe Peter DeAngelis is going to "clean house" and then retire with his own fat. fat pension.... his reward for being the best puppet ever!

madonna1958 my comment was in response to someone who stated that people couldn't imagine the despicable things he has heard when in fact these types of things happen all the time and people are aware of them.

To the story I was right that DLT would not turn her down. If they are appealing they must have been at the hearing to tell their side. Hopefully the McGees recorded the hearing for use later at the wrongful termination case.

ATTENTION BARRINGTON TAXPAYERS: THE STATE DLT INTERVIEWED PAT MCGEE, AND THE TOWN. THEY IN A WRITTEN REPORT STATED THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT PAT MCGEE

HAD DONE ANYTHING WRONG, AND IN FACT HAD A PERFECT RECORD FOR NINE YEARS. THEY ALLOWED HER TO START COLLECTING. NOW PETER DEANGELIS HAS ORDERED MIKE URSILLO

TO FILE AN APPEAL. THIS MEANS THE BARRINGTON TAXPAYER WILL

BE PAYING PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO TRY TO HURT

PAT MCGEE EVEN MORE, WHEN SHE NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG.

IT IS IRONIC THAT THE DEPUTY CLERK POSITION WAS SUPPOSEDLY

GOING TO BE LEFT VACANT TO SAVE MONEY, BUT THE TOWN MANAGER IS NOW SAYING HE IS GOING TO FILL THAT POSITION.PLEASE CALL PETER DEANGELIS AT (401) 247- 1900 EXT

308, AND LEAVE HIM A MESSAGE TO STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY.

Things are already getting a little sloppy over there at the Barrington Town Clerk’s office, kids.

Now, they've misspelled “August” on the Town’s website.

“Aigust”….

Looks like they already have no idea what they’re doing over there.

Who’s in charge over there, anyway?

If there is one thing that the Office of the Town Clerk requires above all else, it is….

Attention to detail.

Without attention to detail in the Office of the Town Clerk, we’ll have another Arlington National Cemetery situation on our hands – no one will know where the bodies are buried.

Gee, when Pat was there, Peter was going to save the Barrington taxpayers money by going to 3 staff, down from 3.5. Now that Pat is gone, looks like they’ll have to stay at 3.5.

So it was Pat who was saving us money.

Hey, they could rehire Pat!

Rehire Pat!

Granted, if Peter dropped the appeal of the unemployment benefits and rehired Pat, Mr. Ursillo wouldn’t make as much in legal fees over the long haul, but don’t fret, he…just… might…be able to make it up …somewhere else. After all, there’re only so many billable hours in a week. As a practical matter, though, there are limits....they can’t be spending more than 100% of the firm’s billable time working for Barrington, Bristol, West Greenwich, South Kingstown…. Town Council meetings, Planning meetings, Zoning meetings, Affordable Housing meetings, Assessment Board of Review meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings….

On the other hand, an unemployment-cat-fight with Peter…. under oath …. start asking Peter some questions…on the record… now that might be interesting.

The Barrington Town Council has said that they are not going to investigate Pat’s firing.

So…Peter’s driving the appeal of the unemployment?

All by himself? Hmm. ..

That’s hard to believe, but maybe it’s the truth.

And, NO “investigation” means that Kate went off half-cocked (again) with her nasty (again), incorrect (again) slap (again) letter (again) to Pat.

The people of Barrington deserve better representation than this Town Council.

I HEARD THAT PAT MCGEE IS GOING TO TRY TO SUBPOENA SOME

MEMBERS OF THE BARRINGTON TOWN COUNCIL TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH AT THE UPCOMING APPEALS TRIBUNAL. SOME OF THEM HAVE

PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION, AND CORRESPONDED WITH PAT MCGEE IN WRITING. I'M SURE THEY WILL

BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THIS, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY CONCLUDED THAT THE TOWN MANAGER DID NOTHING WRONG.

Get ready for the ol' ... "playing dumb' ... routine ... hold on tight for this ride ... because this one will be a doozy

I didn't really fire Pat, I just suggested that she take some well deserved vacation time ... you know ... get to the beach ... smell the roses ... no don't be reviewing my pension now ... I worked a long time to bloat that thing I mean float that thing ... that's guaranteed ... regardless of any investigations ... right Mr. Solicitor?

Oh .... those Barrington town regulations ... yea ... well ... listen ... I'm a solicitor in many, many communities ... and I've never seen this investigations clause used for investigation before ... it seemed to me to be appliocable only for felony charges already imposed only by state authoriities on alternate Thursdays during Lent

Well ... we didn't realize that she had done NOTHING wrong ... we were just following the advice of our hired counsel ...

"playing dumb' ha ha ha thats an unstatement on this story lol.

Jack

The jury's still out on the whole "playing dumb" thing.

It's not a sure thing that they're "playing" dumb...

or that they're even smart enough to be "playing" dumb.

It may be that they are really just that dumb.

WHAT A TANGLED WEB THE BARRINGTON T.C.,T.M. ARE NOW IN.

ON MANY ISSUES THEY ARE DIGGING A DEEPER HOLE AND ONE

HAS TO WONDER WHAT EACH IS THINKING OF THE OTHER AT THIS

POINT IN TIME. IF I WAS ON THE T.C. I WOULD CLIMB OUT OF THE

HOLE AND SAY TO THE TM, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR RESIGNATION,

AND WE WILL ACCEPT IT.

Agree Reinstate Pat.

And about Peter appealing Pat’s unemployment…

Peter may re-think that, when he realizes how messy this will get for him.

That weasel has wasted so much taxpayer money, and caused so much misery with his mistake.

Peter should have to personally reimburse the taxpayers and Pat for what he has wrongfully put everyone through.

It’s too bad Peter is not man enough to just make it right and reinstate Pat.

THE BARRINGTON T.C. COULD BUY OUT THE T.M's. CONTRACT AND

SAVE THEMSELVES AND THE TAXPAYERS. THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO ON MANY FRONTS, AND YOU KNOW THE OLD

SAYING " IT'S NOT A MISTAKE UNTIL YOU FAIL TO CORRECT IT".

IMAGINE BEING A FORMER BARRINGTON COUNCILOR ON JUDGEMENT DAY, AND WHEN ASKED IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT

YOU WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY IF YOU HAD YOUR LIFE TO LIVE OVER. AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY YES. I WISH I HAD DONE

SOMETHING TO HELP A 60 YEAR OLD WOMAN WHO WAS FIRED, AND

LOST HER HEALTH INSURANCE, PENSION, AND FUTURE, AND ALL ALONG I KNEW SHE WAS INNOCENT.

So... is Meredith DeSisto the Town Clerk yet?

How long until Linda James retires? (now that Peter knocked Pat out of the way to get Meredith in position)

Let me see elction in novemeber, carry the payola, add the law suit, AG investigation, ACLU steps in, Obama has Beer sumit with Pat, AG Holder says it is a civil rights issue, New Charter put in place, Hell freezes over, Global warming thaws hell, Hell floods, Ice age starts, Volcano's erupt, Melt age Ice, Life continues.

I would say about 6 days with a rest on sunday there BA and CowboyUp.

Jack

ATTENTION BARRINGTON T.C. MEMBERS: WHEN YOU TESTIFY AND

THINK YOU ARE IN LINE WITH T.M., WHAT HAPPENS IF HE CHANGES

HIS STORY AT LAST MINUTE, AND DOESN'T TELL YOU!!!!

I heard that a Barrington T.C. member was involved in a fabricated

post facto response to a serious matter, and that Pat McGee will be

presenting this evidence to the Appeals Tribunal. The response also

was generated out of T.M.'s office. STAY TUNED

COUNCIL TO PETER- PLEASE HELP US GET OUT OF THIS. YOU STARTED IT, AND YOU SAID NOT TO WORRY. WE IGNORED THE LETTER AND NOW WE FEEL WE ARE BEING HUNG OUT TO DRY. THE

PAPER TRAIL IS GOING TO PROVE WE KNEW OF THE LETTER, AND

NOW EVERYONE WILL KNOW OUR INVOLVEMENT. WE NEVER EXPECTED TO HAVE TO DEFEND YOU IN PUBLIC, AND NOW WE CAN'T EXPLAIN OUR INACTION WITHOUT IMPLICATING OURSELVES.

WE CAN'T TESTIFY AND SHOULD NOT HAVE TO, BUT YOU WANTED

TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS WORSE. ONE OF US WAS TOLD DIRECTLY ABOUT THE HARRASMENT, DEPUTY TOWN CLERK STATEMENTS, THE FILE THAT WAS BEING PREPARED TO USE AGAINST AN INNOCENT EMPLOYEE, THE SILENT TREATMENT OF THE INNOCENT EMPLOYEE, AND THE USE OF OTHER EMPLOYEES TO SET

UP THE INNOCENT EMPLOYEE. WE CONTINUED TO IGNORE MANY

LETTERS THAT WERE A DESPERATE PLEA FOR HELP, IN ORDER TO

PROTECT YOU, AND NOW YOU MUST HELP US.

The culprits are fine ... so long as they keep their improprieties local ... they can play favorites ... twist the regs ... hide the docs ... blame the victims ... change their stories ... play dumb ... all they want ... around here ... they cover for each other

But as soon as the action gets out of their local control ... and under the direction of an objective party ... say the state employment officials ... or the AG ... or the superior court judge ... then all the fabrications start to break down ... and the mis-management is exposed ...

At that point ... the real authorities start asking the obvious questions ... and they start uncovering the obvious irregularities ... and the real problems here become exposed ... and they are not huge problems ... to start ... but they don't get addressed ... and they are covered up ... out of fear ... of whatever ... and they fester and build

this is when Kate starts to get indignant ... and ... disrespectful ... and the rest ... with these written pontifications ... on behalf of herself and her Barrington constituents ... who mostly disagree with what this town council has done (or not done) ... and ... who don't very much appreciate her view of our state authorities ... or her overstated opinion of herself

The town council does not properly supervise the tax official ... or the town manager ... or the police chief ... unfortunately the tax oficial took advantage ... as did the town manager ... and an individual police officer ... and this is where our problems begin.

Get ready for more indignant letters from the great writer of TC

Yep imjustsaying, amazing how mole hills turn into mountains because of covering tracts and lies. Some never learn I guess.

Jack

Pat’s wrongful termination scandal…

Here we go again Barrington.

Our TC trying to cover up another nasty mess that they created.

It’s obviously getting harder for them to keep all those lies and stories straight…

Too many people involved…and too many letters and stories for them to remember.

They are all implicated and all of them had a part in this horrible situation.

Which is a big reason that the TC cannot “investigate” Peter.

The TC would have to investigate themselves as well.

And, another windfall of opportunity for Solicitor Ursillo to bill, bill, and bill.

Consider…..

Pat is an honest and courteous 60 year-old lady, who was on the job for almost 10 years.

But she apparently lacks the political connections that Peter and our TC value so highly, and they want someone else with those connections to take Pat's place. Pat was in the way.

So, our TC / TM WRONGFULLY threw Pat out on the street with no benefits, just before her pension and longevity pay vesting, and now Peter has even stooped so low as to appeal her unemployment entitlement that she was recently awarded by the state.

And then Kate sent Pat a nasty letter, with a dose of Kate’s typical nonsensical distorted and untrue pontification (in Kate’s vomit inducing lecturing tone). Kate chastises Pat really harshly, one last time, in that letter, wrongly telling Pat it was all Pat’s fault.

Sickening.

LET ME SEE- THE BARRINGTON TM SAYS HE IS NOT GOING TO FILL

THE DEPUTY TOWN CLERK POSITION TO SAVE $ (YEA RIGHT). NOW

HE IS GOING TO SPEND ABOUT $1,000 TO HAVE MIKE URSILLO BEAT

UP ON A 60 YEAR OLD WOMAN TO TRY TO TAKE AWAY HER UNEM-

PLOYMENT BENEFITS. GREAT USE OF THOSE IMAGINERY SAVINGS.

"madonna1958"-You're 100% correct in your post, and I'll quote you:

"If the town employees who don't have a union don't organize, this could happen to them also. "Fire at will", like the man said."

The town hall employees need to get a union organized, and they need to do it soon. And although it may make that scumbag DeAngelis think twice about firing people at will, it won't stop him completely. Just look what he's trying to do over at the DPW, trying to privatize the trash collection out to a private company (which will probably give him kickbacks), and putting 8 hard working DPW employees on the unemployment line.

Remember Madonna, this bum DeAngelis treats every town worker like garbage, not just Ms. McGee. The key is to fight for the rights of ALL town employees against this tyrant DeAngelis.

They haven't denied her unemployment. They tried to deny her unemployment.

They have no grounds to deny her unemployment. As I said earlier they need to record these unemployment hearings for use later although the mere fact that she will not be denied unemployment carries some weight.

They had to have cause and they had none.

Solicitor Ursillo has recently "appealed" the states initial decision that Pat IS entitled to unemployment.

But, obviously Pat did nothing wrong and IS entitled to unemployment. At the very least...

It is the TM and TC that did wrong.

But Solicitor Ursillo is happy, as he gets to bill the town for all this appeal work (and we taxpayers all pay to fund Mr. Ursillos big invoices), and the TM seems hell-bent on continuing to harass Pat.

And the TC is ok with all this.

Especially Councilor Kate Weymouth, with her unjustified and mean "kick-Pat-while-she's-down" letter that she recently sent Pat.

Sickening.

True there downtown but it is pretty despicable the way she has been treated. To even try to make a case of denial of benefits considering the manner and obvious personal biased way she was fired TM is also despicable.

Good point Madonna, however Takes a while to get a Union in there with the voting and paperwork and approval process. I think Pat will survive this and triumph in the end though it will take a while. I also believe the only way she could possibly go back to work there in that office is if the TM is removed and he should be from all accounts on here.

Jack

I have never understood BA why this town council and other council will never admit they are wrong or correct the wrongs. Why they inssit on letting the towns get sued at great cost to the taxpayer when it can be solved by them without the suit. Boggles the mind.

Jack

Its likely that she will end up getting a termination package and her vesting.

Keeps it out of court and such.

Jack please tell us about all the other things that boggle your mind. The list should be very long and include things like shoe tying, breathing, chewing gum and basic honesty and hypocrisy.

Your right there downtown they may make a deal but it still won't be enough in my mind for what was done to her and her reputation.

shame on them.

Jack

One has to wonder-would the outcome of this case be any different if Ms. McGee were a union member?

Just my opinion ;-}

Jack,

I too have often wondered why this TC never admits when it is wrong, or objectively and fairly conducts Town of Barrington business.

This TC continually shows that they are collectively dishonest and mean, with relatively low intellect.

That’s a bad combo for a TC.

For instance, June Speakman (among other things) will look a person right in the eye and tell them something that they both know is untrue. (Along the lines of: “I didn’t answer your letter because my dog ate it”, etc.). I have seen this more than once. Why would a person do this? Doesn’t she realize how repugnant this appears to everyone when she does this? And, what can she possibly gain for the Town or herself when she does this?

And this TC makes decisions without evaluating the facts. They often don’t read reports, or other detailed material before them, referring to such items as mere “bean-counting” or to much “detail” for them to bother with. People speaking at hearings often find themselves facing a collective uncomprehending stone-wall of a TC, that has already decided the issues before-hand.

And let’s not forget all those blatant and obvious open government law violations. The AG could conduct an open-government forum, just using the Barrington violations as textbook examples of bad conduct to avoid. Reviewing the Barrington open government violations would fill up the whole day.

Mrs. Speakman holds a PhD, and is a RWU professor, teaching political science. That boggles my mind really big-time, Jack. What can she possibly be teaching?

We need a new TC. And TM. And TA.

By the way…

Pat is one brave lady for speaking out, and we Barrington residents should hold our government accountable for wrongfully ruining her life.

ATTENTION BARRINGTON TAXPAYERS: JUST THINK ABOUT YOUR

TOWN SOLICITOR BEING PAID HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AN HOUR

TO TRY TO KEEP A 60 YEAR OLD WOMAN WHO WAS WRONGFULLY

TERMINATED FROM COLLECTING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS WHEN

THE STATE ALREADY SAID IN WRITING, THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE TO SHOW SHE DID ANYTHING WRONG. THIS WASTED TAX MONEY TO PAY THE TOWN SOLICITOR SHOULD BE SPENT ON

A USEFUL PURPOSE. PLEASE CALL THE TOWN MANAGER AT (401) 247- 1900 EXT 308 AND TELL HIM NOT TO WASTE ANY MORE OF YOUR MONEY.

Don't forget Barrington Anonymous, June Speakman is also the president of the faculty union at RWU-can you say hypocrite?

As much as I hate to say it, Jack B would be a better choice for faculty union president at RWU.

>> teaching political science.......

Well, doesn't that say it all?

Political science is the science of lying and deceiving.

Barrington employees would be better-off in a union.

Pat's wrongful termination, and the continued harassment of her by the Barrington government makes this painfully clear.

If Pat was in a union, she would now be Deputy Town Clerk.

Instead, without union protection, Pat was booted out the door at 60 years old, without any severance, and just short of her pension and longevity pay vesting.

And incredibly, the TM is still trying to take away the unemployment that the state has already awarded Pat. The state found that Pat did not do anything wrong. (The TM recently appealed the state’s ruling that Pat is entitled to unemployment)

It seems clear that Barrington government wanted to promote a “connected” younger woman that they preferred over Pat. So, they fired Pat for a made-up wrongful pretext of a reason.

If Pat was in a union, I don’t think this could have happened.

Anyone who knows how good Pat McGee was at her job, know that if

she was still working there that department would only need two people, including the Town Clerk. She used to stay late to make sure

things were finshed and not get paid. During the day most employees

were surfing the Internet, and talking, but Pat McGee would always

be working. She was given work that was not her work by her Dept.

head and did not only her tasks but work others were being paid for.

She never complained, and went full speed ahead to get things done

while others in her Dept. were taking numerous personal calls, and

either roaming the Town Hall or surfing the Web.

WHEN PETER DEANGELIS FIRES THE DPW WORKERS, WILL HE DO IT

BY COURIER? PROBABLY, BECAUSE THATS HIS STYLE OF MANAGEMENT. ALSO HE WILL PROBABLY SAY THAT THEY WERE NOT

GOOD WORKERS, BECAUSE THATS HIS STYLE. THEN HE WILL TAKE

HIS $10,000 LONGEVITY BONUS AND TELL HIS WIFE HE DESERVES

IT BECAUSE THE TOWN COUNCIL SAID HE DID.

I WAS WONDERING IF PETER DEANGELIS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT

SAVING MONEY ON TOWN SOLICITOR FEES ( HA HA HA HA HA HA

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ).

WOULD ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BARRINGTON TM & SOME

MEMBERS OF THE TC, UNDER OATH PLEASE STAY TUNED FOR TIME

AND DATE.

HOW MUCH DID MIKE URSILLO BILL THE TOWN OF BARRINGTON LAST YEAR.? CALL (401) 247-1900 EXT. 308. IT WILL TAKE YOUR

BREATH AWAY.

PETER DEANGELIS SAID HE HAS HIGH STANDARDS FOR ALL HIS

EMPLOYEES? CHECK THE INTERNET SURFING HIS EMPLOYEES DO,

AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY WASTE CALLING FAMILY MEMBERS TO

CHAT WHEN BEING PAID BY BARRINGTON TAXPAYERS. ALSO WHY

DOES HE TALK BADLY ABOUT SOME EMPLOYEES TO OTHER EMPLOYEES. HAS ANYONE EVER ASKED WHY SOME EMPLOYEES

USE VACATION DAYS WHEN THEY ARE SICK? ANSWER-SICK LEAVE

BUY BACK EVERY YEAR.!!!!!!!!

Ye a I don't believe in the sick leave buy back plan it is a scam and always has been. Vacation days are a right and sick leave is considered a privilage in my whole career. 13 days a year accrual is plenty for the average worker in my opinion. They can do what the federal government does, when you retire if you have 6 months of unused sick days you can increse your pension by 1/2% due to it increasing your time in service. Now that is fair. Never happen in the state public sector i doubt.

Jack

Reinstate Pat, you clearly have an axe to grind as is your right. Heck if my wife got fired I might be as angry as you but its time to stop throwing out all of these unfounded accusations and pointing the finger at all the other workers.Can you show us evidence of all this internet surfing that is going on and the terrible calls to home. It would be very easy for someone else to come on here and say that Pat was doing the same things.

Ok, so ReinstatePat has the meat king’s permission to have rights.

Thank goodness.

Phew!...

Gee, we were worried there for a minute that the meat king might not approve.

And she (the meat king, Manny BIOYA, whatever) just has a burning in her breast to know who everybody is, doesn’t she?

So, anyway, ReinstatePat, you’ve been warned.

Here’s the translation in case you didn’t catch the warning:

If you keep posting the truth in dribs and drabs, the meat king- old -coot friend- of- the- Barrington- government is gonna post lies about poor Pat.

Now, that’s downright dirty. To be expected. But still dirty.

Anyway, and this is really funny, the Barrington government only JUST NOW REALIZED that they can’t control Pat anymore.

Because, you know, they wrongfully terminated her and all.

But they don’t want the truth leaking out.

So they have to have their dear, old-lady, girlfriend, the meat king, threaten the posters.

Watch out….here comes the meat king….. slowly she turns…. Step by step….

Brokeback Cowboy, glad to hear that you and your sheep have come in from the bush. Did I ever ask who anyone is?. It is clear to me and anyone with a brain that he is related to she. To be honest with you I really don't care a lot if this lady gets her job back unless she was wrongly fired. If she was wrongly fired she should be rehired, that is all there is to it. I have no connection to Barrington other than driving through on my way to someplace else and reading about all of the bad parenting and drugs and alcohol. Think about this, if Mr. Reinstate Pat wants Pat to get her job back , is lobbing unfounded accusations the smartest thing to do. If she wants the support of her co-workers they may not want to be dragged through the mud. And if she gets her job back do you think that they will be happy to have been accused of many things by someone closely tied to Pat. Finally, Cowpoke if you think referring to me as a female will get me upset, than fine, I am so angry that you called me a woman. By the way Cowpokey, BIOYA Blow it Out Your Ass.

Pat, thanks for having the courage to speak out about how badly you were treated.

And thanks for sharing information about the inner “workings” at Town Hall.

Obviously you know this information because you worked there for nearly 10 years. You observed, and you therefore have first-hand knowledge. And as you stated earlier, you had to compensate for the work that certain other employees did not do because they were pre-occupied with the internet, etc.

Whenever I visited Town Hall over the past 10 years, there was Pat, busy at the Clerks office window smiling courteously at the taxpayers who were asking her for whatever.

And I could not help but notice certain other (but not all) Town Hall employees, obviously not wanting to be interrupted by taxpayer questions or requests, as they stared at computer screens, turned so the public could not see what was being viewed, but with their tell-tale “glazed” internet-surfing faces on full display. Can you spell “TA”?

It would indeed be interesting to hear from some other workers at Town Hall; some of them would probably wish to thank you, Pat, for all you did for them for nearly 10 years.

And some of us taxpayers would like to thank you Pat for your fine years of service, and for always being so nice and attentive to the public.

I can imagine how silly some of the Town Hall employees must feel as they read these comments about how they spend time at work surfing the internet. I expect we will not hear from any of them at all due to their fear of repercussions from the TM.

Imagine how livid the TM must be, reading these comments, and re-reading those earlier Eddie Haskel parodies, while he is in his inner royal chamber at “work”. At least he can’t scream and harass Pat anymore.

Tell us more Pat.

Chourico, honey, you really need to calm down, Ma'm.

Didn't mean no harm.... and now, here you are.... all predictable ....

and ridin' me like we're datin'.

No Cowpoke, just having some fun. I don't bother getting angry with people on here except for Jethro since he is a criminal and Jack is just fun because he is beyond stupid. Keep up the good work Brokeback, I am sure that once Reinstate Pat gets the little misses rehired everything will be back to normal in Barrington.

Why, thank you, Ma'm.

We're just hopin' Pat has money for groceries, is all.

It's difficult to watch what this government has wrongfully done to that lovely lady.

Got to go back to that store in Salem. I asked for a goat spell and they are still jackasses. Just can't get good spells these days.

jethroagain says:

Got to go back to that store in Salem. I asked for a goat spell and they are still jackasses. Just can't get good spells these days.

More words of wisdom from Joe "jethroagain" Sousa, candidate for Tiverton Budget Committee. How in the world would he think anyone would be foolish enough to cast their vote for him when he makes statements such as the one above.

ATTENTION TRUTHHURTZ; WE ALL KNOW WHAT AN ICEBERG DID

TO THE TITANIC. PLEASE SHOW US THE

MOST POTENTIALLY DAMAGING PART

OF THIS ICEBERG. THANK YOU

CAPTAIN DEANGELIS HAS GIVEN THE ORDER TO NOT THROW A

LIFE RING TO THE WOMAN OVERBOARD, AND FULL SPEED AHEAD.

THE WOMAN DID NOT MEET HIS HIGH STANDARDS, AND HE WANTS

TO SAVE THE LIFE RING FOR HIS NEW DEPUTY TOWN CLERK.

IF THE WOMAN OVERBOARD IS RESCUED BY ANOTHER SHIP THEY

WON'T GIVE HER MEDICAL HELP, BECAUSE SHE HAS NO HEALTH

INSURANCE. IF SHE PASSES AWAY BEFORE THEY RECOVER HER BODY, SHE WILL HAVE TO BE BURIED AT SEA, BECAUSE THE CAPTAIN TOOK AWAY HER LIFE INSURANCE POLICY.

"reinstate pat"-Once again, while I admire your efforts to obtain justice for Pat and wish you the best, please do not forget the 8 DPW workers who are facing the same fate as Pat, due to the piece of garbage town manager DeAngelis and the scumbag town councilors who are also trying to get rid of the DPW workers.

It’s much worse than that, ReinstatePat…

First, Captain DeAngelis tried to tape the poor woman’s mouth shut,

Then he tried to tape her husband’s mouth shut,

Then he shoved them out for a long walk on a short plank ...

And remember now …he’s the one who shoved them both overboard

for no good reason ...

in the first place.....,

Then… not only will he NOT toss them a life ring….

He’s gonna run that big boat engine right over them if he can.

And the Town Council's helping him steer & they're paying for the gas.

But it will all come out in the backwash.

And as for the new Deputy Town Clerk….

Well, we’ll see what the Captain does with that situation.

He’s gonna have new people coming in to be supervised and trained by…

by…uh.... by....?

Oh, and "high standards" must always be in quotes, please.

Because the Captain's (alleged) "high standards" apply to himself, the TA, etc., don't forget.

ONE CAN ONLY SHUDDER AT THE THOUGHT OF WHAT THE CAPTAIN

WOULD DO TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING WRONG.

Could someone please explain the difference between those scumbags DeAngelis, Speakman, etc. unjustly firing Ms. McGee and the same scumbags now trying to fire 8 DPW employees?

Bottom line, DeAngelis and the council will stop at nothing to destroy the lives of every town employee.

ahh common sense, one is an attempt at cost savings though what should have been competitive bidding though that the Union seemed to not want to even try, and the other was illegal duhh.

If the 8 hard working, dedicated DPW workers accepted the ridiculous cuts in pay and benefits in order to save their jobs, they may as well be fired.

The firing of Ms. McGee and the planned firing of the DPW workers is nothing more than an attempt by the scumbag town manager and scumbag town councilors to put all the town workers on the welfare rolls.

IF ONLY CAPTAIN DEANGELIS HAD NOT APPEALED THE WOMAN

OVERBOARD'S UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, OR IF HE HAD THROWN

HIS $10,000 LONGEVITY BONUS OVERBOARD, THE WOMAN OVERBOARD MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD TO CANCEL HER DENTIST AND

HAIRDRESSER APPOINTMENTS. YOU SEE SHE ALSO LOST HER DENTAL INSURANCE AND HAIRDRESSERS ARE A LUXURY PEOPLE

OVERBOARD CANNOT AFFORD. A FEW MONTHS AGO THE CAPTAIN

AND HIS WIFE WERE IN FLORIDA LOOKING FOR A VACATION HOME.

MAYBE THIS WINTER THE WOMAN OVERBOARD WILL HAVE TO CANCEL HER HEATING OIL DELIVERY. YOU SEE WHEN THE WOMAN

OVERBOARD GOES LOOKING FOR A JOB THE CAPTAIN'S UNTRUE

AND VICIOUS TERMINATION LETTER IS ALWAYS GOING TO MAKE

HER CONTINUE TO DROWN IN A HOPELESS ATTEMPT TO GET OUT OF THE WATER.

Oh, so Captain DeAngelis is not going to retire in RI?

Not going to spend HIS pension money (and his wife's) helping the RI economy that PAYS them?

Shocking news, this is.

He should be retiring soon, right?

It must be getting close to the time where the Captains retires and the TC kinda makes it look like he was maybe removed, so the angry mob will be fooled into thinking that the TC, maybe, cleaned the house, a little bit, but really, as his reward for doing their dirty work, he's retiring on Easy Street, Florida, USA with your tax dollars.

PLEASE CALL BARRINGTON FINANCE DIRECTOR DEAN M. HUFF AND

ASK HIM TO PLEASE REVISE HIS LETTER REGARDING THE CHECK

HELD ILLEGALLY BY THE TOWN MANAGER.

Heard it through the grapevine…

So, Hellbent’s hangin’ out chewin’ the ear of Haskell’s Secretary.

When asked if he has a platform, Hellbent said, “Not yet. But I’m really gonna take’em on and shake ‘em up”.

From the INSIDE, apparently.

DEAN HUFF IS WIDELY THOUGHT OF AS THE NEXT BARRINGTON

TOWN MANAGER. THIS IS HIS CHANCE TO SHOW THAT THINGS WILL BE DIFFERENT WHEN HE IS IN CHARGE. HE MUST HELP PAT

MCGEE AND REVISE HIS LETTER. HE IS THE PERSON WHO CAN BRING A WOMAN BACK ON BOARD, AND SEND CAPTAIN DEANGELIS

TO HIS FORCED RETIREMENT.

DEAN HUFF AND THE FORMER BARRINGTON TOWN CLERK LITERALLY

DID NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS AFTER AN

ARGUMENT. PAT MCGEE ACTED AS A GO BETWEEN TO HELP DEAN HUFF AND IT COST HER, BUT SHE DID IT ANYWAYS. NOW IS THE

TIME FOR DEAN HUFF TO HELP PAT MCGEE BY STANDING UP TO THE TOWN MANAGER, AND BEING HIS OWN MAN.

I GUESS THE 2 YEAR FEUD BETWEEN THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND

THE TOWN CLERK, MET THE TOWN MANAGERS HIGH STANDARDS,

BECAUSE HE NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT

CAUSED OPERATIONS TO NOT GO AS SMOOTHLY AS THEY SHOULD

HAVE. I GUESS CAPTAIN DEANGELIS HAS DIFFERENT RULES FOR

DIFFERENT PEOPLE, AND ONLY ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THE WOMAN

OVERBOARD WHEN IT CLEARS THE WAY FOR ONE OF HIS FAVORITE

SHIPMATES

CAPTAIN (HIGH STANDARDS) DEANGELIS' SHIP HAS BEEN OFF

COURSE FOR MANY YEARS, BUT THE ADMIRALTY HAS MADE HIM

THE SECOND HIGHEST PAID CAPTAIN IN THE FLEET.

"High Standards" DeAngelis let a feud go on for two years? Inside the Town Hall? What was it about, anyway?

Lorraine seemed like she could be a little huffy (no pun intended), and maybe was selective in who she catered to from the public?

But Pat was always nice & fair to everyone. Pat was always working - making copies for the public, working in the vault, answering questions, working, working, working.... nice disposition, nice smile.... and working, working, working.... even when Lorraine and Linda and Meredith were nowhere to be seen, there was Pat, working.... working... working....

Maybe Lorraine & "High Standards" DeAngelis didn't like that Pat was nice to EVERYONE? Maybe they wanted Pat to be mean to the public?

Pat was too nice & fair to waste time being mean to anyone.

We miss Pat.

(BTW if you say "High Standards" DeAngelis out loud, you must ALWAYS use the obigatory "air quotes" with your fingers to show that it is in quotes and to emphasize that he really has low-to-no standards.)

Lots of inside scoop on this story ... right here at THC (town hall central) ... Peter has had quite a run for himself here ...

WHEN ADMIRAL SPEAKMAN WAS TOLD THAT PAT MCGEE WAS BEING

HARASSED AT WORK, SHE SAID SHE DID NOT KNOW, BECAUSE SHE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WENT ON INSIDE THE TOWN HALL ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND APPARENTLY IN THIS CASE SHE DID NOT CARE.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WORK AT THE BARRINGTON TOWN HALL? NOT ONE HAS EVEN SENT PAT MCGEE A

CARD OR LETTER EVEN THOUGH SHE KNEW THESE PEOPLE FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS. THE TRADITION OF HAVING A BIRTHDAY PARTY

AT BREAK TIME FOR ALL EMPLOYEES ENDED THE DAY BEFORE PAT

MCGEE'S BIRTHDAY.

Gotta admit, will be following the elctions in barrinton also. Will be intersting to see a large turn over and the hell to pay the taxpayer will probably show after the last 2 years of watching Barrington Towm hall and the Council implode on so many issues and ignore so many taxpayers.

Jack

ITS IRONIC THAT DEAN HUFF WON'T HELP PAT MCGEE, BUT HE PROBABLY SHELLED OUT $100 FOR HE AND HIS WIFE TO GO TO

LORRAINE DEROIS RETIREMENT PARTY FRIDAY NIGHT.

ANYBODY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CAPTAIN THINKS ABOUT THE

TOWN COUNCIL? WHAT HE REALLY THINKS.

WANT TO KNOW WHAT A CAPTAIN ONCE SAID ABOUT AN ADMIRAL?

Yes, please tell us more...

about Captain Eddie Haskell.

Doesn't he like being June's puppet?

ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO A RECENTLY RETIRED SHIPMATE GOT A $100

A WEEK RAISE, BECAUSE THE CAPTAIN WENT TO THE ADMIRAL

AND SAID THIS SHIPMATE WORKED EXTRA HARD. THIS WAS A MID

FISCAL YEAR RAISE THAT WAS ON TOP OF WHAT ALL OTHER

SHIPMATES GOT. NOT ONLY WAS THE RAISE NOT DESERVED, BUT

WHEN PAYROLL TOLD OTHER SHIPMATES ABOUT IT, THERE WAS A

MINI UPRISING THAT THE CAPTAIN AND ADMIRAL WERE ABLE TO

STOP. THE CAPTAIN NOW IS TRYING TO SAVE MONEY BY THROWING

PEOPLE OVERBOARD, WHILE THE RECENTLY RETIRED SHIPMATE IS

ON SHORE ENJOYING A LARGER PENSION.

Dear Mr Reinstate Pat, perhaps the fact that no one has sent her a card or called says more about this woman and how her co-workers felt about her than it does about the type of people they are. You talk about someone getting an undeserved raise, what proof can you offer of the raise or the fact that it was undeserved. If you have proof go ahead and show it.

Dear Mr Reinstate Pat, perhaps the fact that no one has sent her a card or called says more about this woman and how her co-workers felt about her than it does about the type of people they are. You talk about someone getting an undeserved raise, what proof can you offer of the raise or the fact that it was undeserved. If you have proof go ahead and show it.

chouricoking: with all due respect, it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. No idea at all.

Those who know the truth know the truth.

The fact that the Barrington Government treated Pat so badly says more about the Barrington Government than it does about Pat McGee.

You, chouricoking, are not fit to shine Pat McGee's shoes.

The proof exists to be shown where it needs to be shown.

No one has to show it to you.

Please...stop trying to hurt this dear lady & her supporters.

Town Hall employees obviously fear the wrath of Mr. DeAngelis, and are afraid to speak out in Pat’s behalf or even send her a card.

After all, they know what happened to Pat when Mr. DeAngelis lost his temper, screamed at her, and fired her for no legitimate reason in a fit of rage.

No, I don’t think that the Town Hall employees feel good about what happened to Pat.

In fact, the silence of the Town Hall employees is most revealing.

None of them have spoken out in support of Mr. DeAngelis, or against Pat.

And I think that the special raise favor given to that recently retired person, is going to be a rather thorny issue for Peter and June to explain at the appropriate juncture.

I wonder if that special person who got a special raise from Peter and June received an annual performance review justifying the special favor raise?

Or if anyone at the town hall receives annual performance reviews?

I hope that other posters will please show some empathy for this nice lady in her time of distress. Please.

And, I hope ReinstatePat continues letting us know some of Peter and Junes bad secrets.

LISTEN CLEARLY BARRINGTON TAXPAYERS: A FEW YEARS AGO

WHEN THE TAXPAYERS WERE JUSTLY QUESTIONING THE TAXES

THEY WERE PAYING AND THE TOWN MANAGER WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE UPCOMING FINANCIAL TOWN MEETING, THE TOWN MANAGER TOLD THE TOWN HALL EMPLOYEES NOT TO WORRY ABOUT

NOT GETTING THEIR RAISES OR BONUSES. HE SAID THAT IF VOTERS CUT THE TAX LEVY, RATHER THAN HE AND THE OTHER

TOWN HALL WORKERS LOSING RAISES AND BONUSES HE WOULD

SIMPLY CUT SERVICES TO THE TOWNS RESIDENTS. NOW YOU KNOW WHAT HE THINKS OF YOU. PLEASE PETITION THE TOWN COUNCIL

FOR AN INVESTIGATION OF THE TOWN MANAGER. YOU ARE BETTER

THAN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEADING YOU.

Yesterday it was the town firing Pat; Today it's the town attempting to fire the DPW workers; Who's it going to be tomorrow?

You people in Barrington need to band together and throw out these Hitler wannabes running your town....and you need to do it soon!

ATTENTION RUMSTICK POINT TAX PAYERS: THE FEELING AT TOWN HALL IS THAT YOU PEOPLE SHOULD NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR ASSESSMENTS. I GUESS THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEIR FREE

BLUE CROSS, DELTA DENTAL, LONGEVITY BONUSES,SICK LEAVE BUYBACK, SPECIAL RAISES. PLEASE CALL THE TOWN COUNCIL TODAY AND DEMAND THEY HIRE A PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CONSULTING FIRM TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO REIGN IN

THE SPENDING AND NOT JUST CONTINUE TO RAISE TAXES.

JUST A THOUGHT; WHY DON'T BARRINGTON VOTERS PETITION

FOR A SPECIAL TOWN MEETING. IN MOST TOWNS IT DOESN'T TAKE

MUCH WORK. IT COULD BE A PETITION TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM

ONE ACCOUNT TO ANOTHER, OR HIRE AN AUDITING FIRM TO INVESTIGATE THE FINANCES OF THE TOWN. IT MUST BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY PETITION. IT WOULD BE VERY UNDEMOCRATIC IF IT CAN'T BE DONE.

WHAT IS MIKE URSILLO'S PERCENTAGE OF LOST CASES FOR THE

TOWN OF BARRINGTON. SOME OF HIS ADVISORY OPINIONS DO NOT

MAKE SENSE.

DOES MIKE URSILLO MEET CAPTAIN DEANGELIS' HIGH STANSDARDS?

While I'm no fan of Mike Ursillo, he's nothing more than a hired gun for DeAngelis, and as long as DeAngelis keeps throwing cash his way, he'll stay on the case.

The big problem here is for what the town is paying this bum DeAngelis, there should be no need for him to spend even more money hiring Ursillo to do the job HE was hired to do. But when you have a bunch of nitwits on the town council in an incestuous relationship with the town manager, what do you expect?

Nothing but a bunch of idiots running the town of Barrington.

unionteacher100: Exactly!

The Town Solicitor is a "hired gun". He does what the "bunch of idiots running the town" tell him to do.

He's supposed to be giving them competent legal advice not doing the stupid things they tell him to do.

But, hey, what does he care? He's laughing all the way to the bank.

He doesn't need the respect of his legal peers.... he's in the money!

Barrington needs to get rid of: TC, TM, TS & TA.

MIKE URSILLO IS A HIRED GUN, BUT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS

COMMON DECENCY AND ETHICS. TO LET THE COUNCIL OFF THE HOOK BY ADVISING AGAINST AN INVESTIGATION IS MORALLY WRONG. AND URSILLO IS OR WAS ON THE BOARD OF BAR OVERSEERS, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO REGULATE ETHICS AND STANDARDS. HE GOT PAID TO PUT ANOTHER NAIL IN PAT MCGEE'S

COFFIN.

PETER DEANGELIS, IF YOU READ THIS BEFORE YOU GO TO THE CHATHAM BARS INN FOR A WEEKEND OF FUN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT PAT MCGEE HAS LOST SIXTEEN POUNDS FROM THE

STRESS OF WHAT YOU DID TO HER, BUT SHE CAN NOT GO TO A DOCTOR BECAUSE YOU TOOK AWAY HER HEALTH INSURANCE.

YOU ARE NOW TRYING TO TAKE HER UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS

AWAY. WHY DON'T YOU PROMOTE MERIDITH DESISTO TO DEPUTY

TOWN CLERK, JUST TO ADD A LITTLE MORE PAIN. HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND AT THE CHATHAM BARS INN. PAT MCGEE WILL HAVE TO

STAY HOME THIS WEEKEND BECAUSE SHE CAN NOT FIND WORK

BECAUSE OF YOUR VICIOUS TERMINATION LETTER, AND YOUR

PLAN TO TRY TO TAKE HER UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS

Don't know how Peter and the Town Councilors and Ursillo can live with themselves after what they've done to Pat McGee.

Pat did nothing wrong.

And even if she did - which she DIDN'T - why not a simple WARNING?

Why not a simple CHANCE?

The Barrington government should make this right and rehire Pat McGee.

They should send her a letter tonight by courier and let her know.

So she can sleep.

So she can afford to ...uh...you know...eat.

'k?

Please....

please....

please...

rehire Pat McGee.

Attention, June Speakman,

Please call Pat tonight…

And tell Pat that you will stop trying to take away her unemployment.

Can’t you, at the very least, do that for Pat?

After all, Pat didn't do anything wrong.

AN OPEN LETTER TO BARRINGTON TOWN COUNCIL PRESIDENT

PROFESSOR JUNE SPEAKMAN: Sorry to interrupt your summer vacation, but I wanted to update you on developments since you

ignored the letter you received at 3:14 P.M. on June 7. A woman who loved life and her job, has now lost 16 pounds and her spirit. She has

tried to find work but your Town Manager has pretty much made sure

that won't happen. That was not enough for him so he decided to try

to take away her unemployment benefits. He already took her Pension, Health and Dental Insurance. Mrs. Speakman, have you ever

not felt well and cannot go to a Doctor. Is it so important to take care

of Barrington's DeSisto family. You can still make this right. Rehire

Pat McGee, and she will forgive and be reborn. This is the only way to save an innocent person who never did anything to hurt anyone

and reached out to Political Science Professor June Speakman to save

her more than once.

June's been asked more than once to save Pat.

June refuses to save Pat.

That says it all about June & the kind of person she is.

Pat didn't do anything wrong.

Pat doesn't deserve to be treated so badly.

Please rehire Pat.

Please.

Pat is a victim of a common problem in society today. “Political power runs amuck”. The reasoning that politicians use for their actions such as “I know better than the people who elected me" needs to end. Common sense dictates that in order to run an efficient government you must first understand the problem you’re dealing with. That requires an exchange of the facts and what exactly happened before you look for the remedy to the situation.

Here it was out and out vindictiveness it appears and a bruised ego of the TM. Hope this guy never becomes a judge. You have to look at everything not just assume, as he obviously did. To treat someone’s career and life so callously is abhorrent to a society of reasonable people. It is not unusual to see a TM take the high road and admit it was haste in his actions that caused this. It is not unreasonable to then reinstate Pat with an apology. That would show character and integrity. It would also restore faith in the system that Pat has served so many years in.

In this day and age of so called “jumping the gun” for political expediency, do you not think it is time politician’s start acting like they represent the people and not themselves? I mean really criticism from a spouse it a God given right in this country. It is not an excuse to punish some one because you can’t handle the criticism. That is a sign of thin skin and that means you’re in the wrong job.

Jack

Hey JackB, don't you think that if Pat had been in a union like yourself and me, that the problem would never have happened?

Yup. She would have been better off in a union.

She would have had due process and could have filed grievances. And the union probably would have been able to get criminal charges for

when DeAngelis wouldn't let her leave the room.

But they're still looking at getting rid of the DPW staff. Even if the DPW get subsequent jobs, those jobs probably won't be as good as the jobs and benefits they have now.

The staff at the Barrington Town Hall must live in constant fear.

Please be sensitive to Pat's situation. It's bad.

Does anyone know of a job for Pat?

Please.

About all can be done there cowboyUp remember election time and do a law suit on the current situation. That would make ursillo happy though laughing all the way to the bank since he gets paid either way.

Jack

The TC & TM could give Pat back her job.

They could salvage the situation and make it right.

Right now.

After all, Pat didn't do anything wrong.

Pat & Kevin McGee are in need of some acts of kindness right now.

Right now.

Just like in those sermons you may hear in church or at synagogue or with those messages of "pay it forward" or "random acts of kindness" or just because you’re a nice person and they are in need....

like that.

Please.

HYPOCRISY - NOUN- A FEIGNING TO BE WHAT ONE IS NOT, JUNE

SPEAKMAN.

Good morning! First let me preface my comments by stating that I am a huge animal lover. My wife and I have a dog and two cats, and we treat them like family.

With that being said, when you get a chance, google Chris (or Christopher) Morra, Rehoboth selectman or finance committee. This bum reminds me of some elected and appointed officials in Barrington.

And once again, while I absolutely do not condone the tactics used last week on this scumbag Morra, I must say, I do like the message he was sent last week, and really like the message he was sent last winter.

Supporters of Pat McGee and DPW workers take notice-you might learn a thing or two from the goings on in Rehoboth!

We know you make love to animals. With your twisted shaft -Freak

Nice one JethroJoeSousa aka the turdminator. You seem to spend a good amount of your day thinking about the shafts of other men. Prison life will do that to you from what I hear.

In addition "chouricoking", I think Jailbird Joe developed his love for "you know what" from all those hours he spent in "Little Dan's" basement.

PETER DEANGELIS- MERIDITH DESISTO HAS BEEN FULL TIME FOR

A FEW WEEKS. DON'T YOU THINK IT HAS BEEN ENOUGH TIME TO

APPOINT HER DEPUTY TOWN CLERK. IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG YOU

WILL BE CALLED ON THE CARPET, BY THE DESISTO FAMILY.

Anyone who condones the "goings on in Rehoboth" is still not on the right page.

We don't support anyone who uses violence in an attempt to get what they want.

We support Pat & DPW because the are in the right and because they DON'T use violence and threats of violence.

The minute someone uses violence, any support for that person is GONE.

Get rid of 'em.

So the court ruled against the Town Council on the reval.

But Minardi wasn't fired.

What's up with that?

As you know "Cowboy Up", As I've stated many times, the "methods" I used to promote the union cause in my younger days are long over. I merely brought up the Rehoboth situation up because I found it ironic how it happened just as we were discussing the state of affairs in Barrington last week regarding the town council/manager and town employees.

I'll repeat, what Ms. McGee and the DPW workers need to do is to get the residents/taxpayers on their side. Once they do that, some picketing would be the next logical step, similar to what the police union in East Providence did. They mounted a great PR campaign to garner taxpayer support, and then moved on to the picketing. Very organized, very effective, and very non-threatening.

But I have to say, as far as what happened to that bum Morra in Rehoboth, it couldn't have happened to a better guy.

Response to CowboyUp

You are correct in your statement on violence. It is the act of a coward that your argument is so weak you do something like that. It is also mafia mentality and illegal. To advocate it is no different then those that did it. To post it as something to consider is obvious here. I hope no-one takes that insinuation to use it. Despicable to advocate Violence against your fellow humans. This is the way you try and negotiate, I can’t understand the mentality. He would not have posted it in the first place if he wasn’t hoping someone would get it in their head to do it. The most hypocritical thing about it is to say in one breath you don’t support it then post another that the guy deserved it.

Sorry but there is no justification for union to do these things ever or anyone for that matter. Unions wonder why people don’t support teachers and other pubic Unions. Well there it is a teacher screen name want personal violence against a politician.

Get pat back her jobs legally, do not even think of the ranting of doing criminal activity. No matter how it is spun you will only hurt the person or persons your try to help. Pleas no-one consider this.

Jack

As usual Jack, you try and twist my comments around and make me look like the bad guy. I simply find it ironic how you, myself, and cowboy were discussing methods for helping Ms. McGee and the DPW workers last week, and bang-scumbag Morra falls victim to another unfortunate "incident". Kind of reminds me of the East Greenwich Middle School incident a few months ago-do you remember that one Jack?

As I have stated previously, I no longer condone or participate in those sort of "tactics", but I find it interesting that we see them happening with greater frequency these days. Maybe public sentiment has shifted in favor of the unions, maybe dirtbags like Morra from Rehoboth was out of control-who knows?

Anyway, if only Morra had shown a bit more respect toward the town workers instead of stabbing them in the back, his unfortunate streak of "bad luck" might never have happened.

Just a thought. ;-}

And Jack-speaking of violence, you should get some advice on that from your buddy Joe "jethroagain" "terminator" Sousa on that-he has plenty of experience (and a rap sheet) in that subject.

union__teacher says:

And seeing that I have a little bit of time Jack, let me give you a little example of union members sticking together (something you would know very little about). I was involved with assisting a fire department in contract negotiations, when I was told by a union representative of a union member from that department who was scabbing himself in another department that augmented their paid personnel with scabs (volunteers). This idiot was not only making his union look bad, but he was taking away jobs from union members in the other department. I'm proud to report the offender had some unexpected "car trouble", which caused him to think about the damage he was doing to 2 unions at the same time, and he immediately resigned from the scabs after his "car trouble". It just goes to show you what can be accomplished with a little bit of union solidarity Jack, and when I mean solidarity, I'm talking about ALL unions working together-police, firefighters, teachers, and public works.

11/9/09, 02:33 PM

Not to mention others where you said you were going to go the the shaws wharehouse in MA. to do some damage to cars and such. You have not changed your strips at all there is much proof of that. I do know people here are intelligent enough to not follow your tactics you love so much. The END

Jack

unionteacher100:

Were you on TV on Friday?

Are you packing for Washington?

Mr. Morra isn't having "bad luck". Someone did an intentional and threatening act of violence toward him. There's no dressing up that.

Public sentiment is against violence.

Public sentiment is against those who advocate for violence, even if it is veiled in quotations.

Any union advocate who advocates for violence in Barrington right now is hurting the DPW staff and their union because it may be forcing the Town Council into a position to where they will feel like they have to vote for privatization just to show the union that they aren't going to cower to threats of violence.

unionteacher100 - we can see that you are NOT advocating for violence.

Good.

Now, about the issues....

The Town Council & Town Manager should rehire Pat McGee because she did a great job, she did the work of 1.5 people, and she didn't deserve to be fired.

The DPW staff do a great job and the Town Council was irresponsible not to budget for the necessary capital, especially as they were voting to spend "surplus" capital on a Beach House Shrine to Stupidity.

Sorry cowboyUp reaspectfully disagree 6 months ago advocating it and supporting it is not younger days. There are many other examples by him, but I will not waste time posting them as it serves no purpose to help PAT.

I agree on the beach house it is strange to say budget crisis and still do those types of projects , which I like to call feel good projects. They do the same here in Bristol and everywhere to make taxpayers think they benifiting. In actuallity the taxpayer are getting rolled over. It is the taxpayer paying for it in the end.

Talk about being creative and balancing a budget with fiscal responsibilty and efficientcy. Not this kind of crappola. ;-}

Jack

Jack

Why thank you Cowboy. While I've tried a million times to get the point across to your buddy Union Jack that I no longer use or advocate the "tactics" I used in the past to further the union cause, he just doesn't seem to get it. I was merely trying to point out the fact that it appears union members are fed up with the bashing that they're taking, and they are starting to stand up to maggots like Chris Morra, Pete DeAngelis, June Speakman, Joe Larisa, etc., etc. As I told you last week, right now it's all about the unions currying favor with the citizens and exposing jerks like the ones I just mentioned for what they really are-self serving, blowhard politicians.

Getting back to the issues, let's hope Ms. McGee and the DPW workers continue to fight the good fight, and stand up for themselves in an informative way.

Finally, no-I wasn't on TV Friday-I'm assuming you're talking about Gist and her pimp Carcieri going to D.C. If I were in the same room as those two scumbags, I would have been arrested for throwing eggs at them! They're just a couple of union haters who like to hear themselves talk, and couldn't give a rat's behind about children's education.

Now you annoy people to death with your diatribes.

Union douche bag-full of it! and by the way- I'm Richard and I see you

Atta boy Jailbird Joe-Just another reason you and your fellow TCC creeps went down to defeat at the FTM. And you wonder why even Katz and Nelson ignore you?

I HEAR THAT PETER DEANGELIS' CHURCH IS HAVING AN UPCOMING

FESTIVAL. IF YOU SEE HIM AT THE FESTIVAL PLEASE ASK HIM TO REINSTATE PAT MCGEE. IT WOULD BE THE CHRISTIAN THING TO DO

ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE DID NOTHING WRONG. HE WAS A TRUSTEE

OF THE CHURCH, AND I THINK GOD WOULD BLESS HIM FOR SAVING

THE LIFE OF A GOOD WOMAN, WHO'S LIFE HAS BEEN RUINED FOR

NO OTHER REASON THAN TO TAKE CARE OF THE DESISTO FAMILY.

As far as anyone can tell, Mr. Hellmann’s platform apparently is designed to further the endeavors of the Town Council, the Town Manager and the Barrington Tax Assessor.

Mr. Hellmann did speak in favor of the faulty revaluation taxation scheme that the Barrington government put in place. He appears to be on the “losing side” of this one.

Also, from the comments that he wrote, it appears that Mr. Hellmann feels that he brought the wrath of Hell down on Mr. DeAngelis’s head at one point and, as Mr. Hellmann says, the result was that Mr. Hellmann was rewarded with the contract that Mr. Hellmann desired.

What’s up with that? Pat was yelled at by Peter and was fired, even though she didn’t do anything wrong.

Mr. Hellmann says that he is paid by the town even though he brought the wrath of Hell down on Peter’s head?

Cowboy you are the biggest fool I have ever heard. Don't count your chickens yet.

Your right I was the only one of the 75% of the town in favor of the reval to speak up. Those people were very pleased that I did. I got some nice letters.

By the way if you bother to look at the town council Meeting I spoke in favor of the DPW guys, and opposed to Peter firing them. Because Peter, in my opinion is wrong. I see the point and the savings he is just wrong on this one. I am a consultant for the town and my contract was up on Saturday, and Peter can not rehire me ( or basically he could fire me) for disagreeing with him. I have no union or recourse. And if he were 1/4 of what all of the BS you say he is, he would have fired me last week. I spoke against a measure he brought to the council, pretty well I thought. Why didn't he fire me there are a lot of people who can do my job. I publically told everyone that he was wrong. I told the Town Council he was wrong. But I am going to get rehired next month.

Being allowed to go to trial and winning a trial are very different. and just to refresh everyone what I said is that many of the evaluations were wrong. The numbr of appeals proved that. Every year there are revals that are wrong. My disagreement with BET was not that there were bad revals which there were and always are.

I disagree only with thier remedy: It was and is wrong to throw out the reval go back to the original eval for everyone which would allow the wealtiest waterfront land owners pay a smaller percentage then they should as their property has held their value better than the rest of the town. While the middle class, would have to pay more to subsidize. This is what happened in Providence with the East side holding it's value better than the rest of Providence.

700 people ( not properties but people) are only 10% of the property owners in town, 75% of the people were happy or like myself thought that it was close enough to the actual value.

10% is not a majority or a viable minority. And it will lose in court. I feel very confident on that. The correct remedy for a bad reval is to appeal, not to make 4 other revals bad which is what BET wants.

The proper recourse against a bad evaluation is appeal. We appealed 2 of the four revals in 16 years of appraisals I had and I won both . The other 2 were close so we did not appeal.

But this year many of the appraisals were wrong and should be appealed and were and many of the appeals won.

the ones who want the reval thrown out are the ones that would lose the appeal. The ones who want their taxes lower at others expence.

The ones who financed the effort to contact everyone in town and hired the lawyers.

I did an analysis in 1997 and showed the town council that the higher end properties were assesed at between 25 and 60% ofactual sale prices . I was told that if they fixed the "unwritten rule" that the wealthiest residents would sue the town. That was 1997 It it has come true today. It is as simple as that.

This reval brought many of those properties up to the actual value, which became even more frightening with the drop in property values.

And don't bring out the low end properties that were wrong. they were all fixed in the appeals.

So Cowboy the coward who won't leave his name whose day will come, Don't brag about a judge who is willing to let fellow lawyers on both sides have a payday, at the end of the day property is property and just as the lady who was leading the movement told me when she complained that her new assesment went from 3 Million to 3.6 Million I asked her what her house was really worth as she was a realtor, she said it was worth the full 3.6 million, but why should she pay more? for the same services? or as she said she should get a year to sell her house before it went up as the higher tax rate would depress the property sale price.

I put my faith in the court system and going to trial and winning a trial are different things.

But Cowboy keep ranting! a dozen people came up to me this weekend and told me that anyone who takes you guys on is good in their book. It's really great for me. thanks again.

Wow holy spanolly that is so post, Imjustsaying.

I want to read these letters from this women who calls herself "Kate" and also the one that Mr McGee sent to Peter that started this whole mess...are there links so I can read this?

I THINK THE BARRINGTON TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD BE CHARGED

WITH OPEN MEETING VIOLATION LAWS, BECAUSE THEY HAD TO HAVE TALKED AND DECIDED AS A BOARD HOW TO HANDLE THE LETTER SENT TO JUNE SPAKMAN. THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED

BOTH WITH THE JUNE 5 LETTER, AND THE FOLLOW UP LETTERS TO

ALL BOARD MEMBERS. THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THIS BY PHONE

AND NOT A POSTED MEETING EITHER IN OPEN OR EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALSO AT THIS POINT JUNE SPEAKMAN KNOWS THAT PAT

MCGEE HAS NO WAY OF RECOVERING FROM WHAT THE TOWN MANAGER DID TO HER, UNLESS SHE STEPS IN. IF JUNE SPEAKMAN

LETS THIS CONTINUE SHE WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

LIFE OF AN INNOCENT PERSON.

To "Reinstate Pat"-You have the perfect idea in a previous post-the Holy Angels church festival is coming up this weekend-what better place to turn the heat up on this scumbag DeAngelis. Plenty of parishoners, town residents, etc. DeAngelis wants to play hardball with Ms. McGee and the DPW workers?-then it's time to play hardball with him. There are ways to make him feel so uncomfortable at the festival, he'll be off the church grounds faster than a speeding bullet.

In addition, supporters of Ms. McGee and the DPW workers, you need to find out where the town council members hang out/socialize, and make their lives a bit more "uncomfortable" also.

Maggots such as DeAngelis and the town council members put on a big show and act really tough when they're up on the dais at the town council meetings, but get them out in public when they're off their throne, and it's a whole different ball game.

You know, maybe the citizens of Barrington could take a lesson from their neighbors in Rehoboth-baaaaaaaaa!

Just kidding ;-}

I think it is a bit strong to say that this person is soley responsible for the life of an innocent person. Is she planning on ending her life Mr.Magee. She needs to realize that bad things happen to good people and move on with her life. She can pursue a lawsuit if that is available but it is time to start living for herself. Reinstate Pat keeps throwing all of the co-workers under the bus and making it sound as if there is major conspiracy to keep this woman from ever working again. If that is the case then Barrington really is a shi-thole town, a rich one but still a shi-hole.

You’re welcome, Mr. Hellmann.

And, thank you for revealing your platform.

To summarize:

You are a winner….

you get what you want…

the people love and support you….

and you are not above a little name calling….

and a threat or two.

Now we’re getting somewhere.

Thank you for confirming that the legions who support you are reading and discussing the comments.

Anyway, just a couple of minor points, now:

it’s “you’re”, not “your”, “expense” not “expence”, “number” not “numbr”, “assessed” and “assessment”

not “assesed”/”assesment”, “their” not “their”.

If you’re going to insult the “wealthiest” people in town, please don’t refer to them as the “wealtiest”.

And ….

this is important, now…

it’s “revaluation” not “evaluation”.

Normally, we don’t care about grammar and spelling

but since this is your statement of your political platform,

we must now begin to hold you to a higher standard.

If you continue to call a “revaluation” an “evaluation”, it may turn readers off from the get go. Because if you first make it painfully obvious that you don’t even know what such a thing is called, well, it becomes difficult for the reader to put much credence in your theories about that thing.

But, hey, we want to make sure that your fans read every word you write.

Other than that, you have quite a platform.

It’s a good thing that those 1000 BET members don’t vote.

And, it’s a good thing that wealthy people don’t vote.

Obviously, the thespian in the bib overalls is on his way!

And as to Mr. Hellmann’s threat to this poster that “your day will come”…

Well, apparently, that’s just the kind of guy he is.

Discuss.

One does have to wonder, what is an acceptable minority Mr. Hellmann? Doesn’t the minority have the right to redress by politicians the same as the majority? Do they not have the right to use the system they chose for this redress? Sorry Mr. Hellmann, you seem to have forgotten the most basic of citizen rights. Should the majority be overturned because of the minority, it happens all the time when the minority is correct and obviously the judge agreed that is the case here. You may not like the Judge’s decision but it is what it is.

It appears at least to me there is much bias on your part. You single out certain individuals and have decided on your own that they have no rights. You blame people for getting involved in what they consider an injustice that the town allowed to happen. They believe the town could have rectified the situation and it did not. I seem to remember reading about appealing of cases and some being thrown out or decided before they were even heard. The story of an elderly lady comes to mind on that one.

I do not remember all the particulars on it. I do however remember a person on that board of review stating that even if they had listened to her, which they did not, he still would have voted against, because in his opinion he could base it on what he read without her talking before the board. It matters not what he read and that is the same theory you appear to be advocating. You must let the people speak whether you personally think it will change your mind or not. This is how it gets in the public record so you then have recourse against government. This is after all guaranteed by the US Constitution on redress of grievances against the government in simple English.

Jack

I suggest those that keep putting up post that are saying thing that could appear to be advocating violence, better smarten up, You are now going to cause this paper to re-think keeping this forum and are ruining it for those that don't support all these disgusting post to harm the council or threaten them.

You know who you are and it would appear you are in deep trouble if the new story to day is any indication. Advocating the things that happen in other town is wrong and serves no purpose in trying to get justice for Pat. The way to get this done is with the system in place period.

Jack

reinstatePat needs to chill out. I disagree with the firing but I'm not going insane over it. If she can prove she was wrongfully terminated then she'll be compensated in a civil suit I believe. Why ON EARTH would she want to go BACK to working for this guy that fired her? It doesn't make sense. Chill out buddy. (Watch as it turns out be the husband)

This would have been a not so bad thing JM had they try to solve it at the lower level I.E. the council look into it. It just wrong in my opinion that you always have to fight city hall with legal fee's that hurt towns and taxpayers. Not to mention the person having to spend money on the suit.

A suit like this I do not believe you can collect the lawyers fee's, though I am not sure on that and it could cost you a fortune to sue a town in a civil suit such as this.

Jack

Oh and Barrington has proven over the last few years that they will fight even if they know they are wrong, no matter how much of the taxpayers money they have to spend. The recent Re-evaluation suit proves that one. If you read the judges comments, it should never have been filed by the town.

Jack

One has to wonder, had Ms. McGee (and her fellow town hall employees) been unionized, would things have progressed to their current level? You've got a woman (Ms. McGee) on the unemployment line, another person (madonna1958) under investigation by the meatball police, and a town council and town administrator that are totally out of control.

Had this woman been a union member, she would have had a contract, a clear set of job rules/expectations, and some of the best legal representation in the state fighting for her. Instead, all you people in Barrington have is one big mess.

And people wonder why being in a union is so important?

I have been quietly sitting back and reading the papers listening to the news and reading your comments, I have only once in the past commented on any situation in this fine town of ours. But now I cannot remain silent. First of all I want to respond to IMJUSTSAYING, REINSTATE PAT, COWBOY UP, AND UNION TEACHER 100, I W

...someone pulled the plug?

sorry my computer froze, may I continue....Why are you so negative, when you really do not know two sides to the story. If there was an argument with a child of yours and the child's spose would you be so quick to come to a conclusion. Even your own children would not tell you the entire truth of a confrontation with a spouse, only as they themselves see it. Let us be a little more forgiving until we know the entire story. You may be surprised. One question I have for the above mentioned on line names.....How long have you lived in Barrington? I have live here most of my life. And I chose to live here. If you think it is better elsewhere....or if you have had a better life elsewhere, well maybe you should reconsider where you should be living. And a message to Holy Angeles Church and to the people who support the festival I would suggest.......NO ONE EAT THE FOOD...if it is tainted for one....it may be tainted for all who purchase the food...I would be afraid to try the meatballs and anything else sold. It is sad that someone would stick their foot in their mouth by saying such a thing. Don't you know whatever you post is etched in stone and will come back to bite you. HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS....ALL OF YOU.........My God .....Have mercy until you know all.........you sound like RUSH . IF PAT HAS A PROBLEM LET HER CONFRONT THE PROPER DEPARTMENTS.........NOT THE NEWS MEDIA FIRST ESPECIALLY IF SHE THOUGHT SHE WANTED TO RETURN TO HER JOB. Do you know what just happened because of ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE................FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Insultus Interuptus....

it's a medical condition best ignored by polite society.

Cowboy up See..... you are spending your life insulting , argumentive, and you may ignore me and my comments, but, as I said previously this is only my second comment I do not spend my days posting negative a response for every comment made. You are only there to push someone's buttons....good luck....enjoy yourself.

Why, thank you, Ma'm.

Response to BAY_SPRING

Yes there are two sides to every story; however there really is no dispute as to Pat being fired for the actions of her husband. The Town Manager made that Statement publicly, the council knows that was the case and chose to not even look into it. The fact that you advocate people should not be allowed to speak out is shameful. When you say they should consider moving because they express their outrage with town government guaranteed by the U.S. constitution, makes one wonder what kind of country you want to live in.

Well you are free to live where you want, what gives you the right to tell others where to live? I find your statement about the church disgusting. In one line you say someone stuck a foot in their mouth over the meatball thing. Then you are saying no-one should eat anything there. Way to support a good cause no matter your belief system. Then you shout out about rush and rolling Stone makes it sound like your some left wing loon. I won’t get into the military thing as I disagree with crucify a life time soldier for his words and those on his staff, that only ruffled feathers and caused no damage what so ever to the war or the Country.

Don’t bother replying on that, you obviously feel different on it so we disagree there. That however shows what this is all about. Pat went the only route available to her with her employer the town. When that failed to get results then she went the only other choice she had, in public. Do you believe that people are not allowed to have redress against the government also guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution?

I can not understand how someone would be against people no matter where you live, who want to help Pat in here cause. That is the American way, especially when it is the government that has let her down. You do not have to live any specific place to support or to be against something. You merely have to care about the cause. It is noble to help others. It is a sign of character and integrity to speak on another’s behalf for only the sake of helping. That goes for those on the other side of an issue as you seem to be on this one. Hardly a reason to slam the messengers of their opinions. Your insinuation that everything sold is worse than the meatball joke that was clearly a joke. You try to make it all about all the church food, again shame on you.

Jack

By the way BAY like friends do not let friends drive drunk nor do they let friends or enemies have their rights taken away. The taking of the rights of one citizen diminish's the rights of all citizens and can not be said enough nor tolerated ever.

Jack

aypa Jackb speaks the truth like he lives and breats it. The boss can no fire someone unless he got a good reason. I doubt that anyone would ever lie about why they fired from job. Jackb did we mmet at a rally on Providence for the tea party. I think i remeber you from the sign you hold. Could be wrong , sometimes my memory work some time not so much. Keep being a true american man JackB, Jethro and Ricard.

To Jackkb , cowboy and the rest who are going on and on and on....do not insult my intelligence. If you read my comment you will see that I said this was only my second comment ever posted I do not spend my life antagonizing people to get a rise out of them. I did not said Pat lied, what I was trying to express, if you read my comment again, was that sometimes, a person perceives the way something happens in a different manner than another. Like for instance the way you purposely took what I said and twisted it so that you could, in your mind ,look like you were right and I wrong. Look if it makes you feel like a better person to belittle me, or downgrade me.......well go for it ....you are beyond belief . Listening to most of this is as if AMERICA was going back in time....when groups that would not LISTEN except to themselves...were looking for the nearest tree to throw a rope to do what THEY thought was right in their minds, and their minds only, without giving someone the benefit of the DOUBT. YOU truly amaze me.

Well glad your amazed but an explaination of what I founf wrond in my opinion with your comment is shall we say just my opinion as you have a right to yours I have a right to mine, and I did not call you a lier merely thought you were mistaken in your assumption on the posters here.

Jack

right about that Jackb this guy comes here knowing alot about everything and talking mean about the good posters of east bay. how daren this mean man insult the only common sense things said in the news today. probably a socialist from Cuba or Holland.